Re: Underrepresented roads and car types (UNCLASSIFIED)

anthony wagner

I should have been clearer. What I meant by 're-painting' was not painting the
whole car but, in addition to the required periodic reweighing and re-stenciling
which was done routinely on every railroad for both foreign and home road cars,
re-stenciling the road name, or more importantly the car number, if it had
become unreadable on at least one, or both sides of the car. In looking at
photos one occasionally sees a car that was so weathered and/or dirty that it
was difficult to tell who the owner might have been. When I worked as a yard
clerk, writing switch lists manually, it wasn't uncommon to have to take a car's
number off the end or some other less visible location because of paint fade,
rust, or dirt. If all else failed the accompanying waybills could be used,
sometimes by the process of elimination, to determine what the number was. I
also occasionally saw cars where it was obvious that someone had taken the
trouble to clean off at least the car's number and sometimes the initials too,
so it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that a car which had not been fully
repainted for twenty years or more might also have received this treatment.
There are also rare photos showing replacement numbers and/or initials in a
different font than the original but that didn't appear to be as common in the
steam/early diesel era than it is now. Tony Wagner

From: "SUVCWORR@..." <SUVCWORR@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 7:00:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Underrepresented roads and car types (UNCLASSIFIED)

As I recall the car was repainted in the P/L of the road then in possession of
the car. It was later identified by the purely PRR trucks and the C/N and
original car number on the center sill. Or I could be thinking of another piece
of lore.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 12:47 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Underrepresented roads and car types (UNCLASSIFIED)


Until you mentioned this car having been repainted off the PRR, I'd have allowed

that this was within the realm of possibility.

I just don't think that the Pennsy would lend out their stencils to an off-line
road or shop. So given a paint life of 15-25 years, this car would have been
re-painted at least once--off-line?? I suppose some industrious car shop
painter could have either used their road's stencils or made ersatz Pennsy
stencils when it came time to letter the car? I find this a little hard to

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., anthony wagner <anycw1@...> wrote:

Re PRR box cars never going "home": My memory may be faulty but I seem to
reading long ago, probably in "Trains", that in the aftermath of the PC merger

someone in the car service department found records of an X29 that had been
built in the 1920s, loaded offline soon afterward, and had subsequently been
repaired and even repainted on other railroads, then ultimately retired
ever having come back to the Pennsy. Don't know if it is true, but having
for a railroad for many years before incentive per diem rules changed things,
certainly seems plausible. Tony Wagner


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