Re: Tractors per Flatcar & Rates Charged?

ian clasper <ian@...>

If you decide to model a partly unloaded flatcar, consider the following
when building the model.

Tractors were loaded in pairs, each wired to one another, so I would model a
50ft with two tractors missing.
A tractor loaded by itself would have to have additonal choking added as it
could no longer rely on it's sibling.

The real tractors would most likely be unloaded at a loading platform, and
probably would be driven off the side of the car onto the platform. The crew
would only remove the choking that they needed to unload the tractors, so
some of the choking would be left in place exactly were it was when the car
was fully loaded. Other chokes would either be completely missing, or
randomly scatted on the deck. If a crane was used, the chokes would be
simply left in place on the deck and only the tie down wires would be

Old choking tended to be the problem of the next shipper to use the car, so
should be part of the partly loaded model.

Ian Clasper

----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Stephen Sandifer" <jssand@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Tractors per Flatcar & Rates Charged?

In the early 50s it was not unusual for a box car of appliances to stop at
2-3 locations to unload part of its load. Tractors could be the same way.
There may have been 8-10 when it left the plant, but possibly 4 were
unloaded at dealer A and the balance 200 miles away at dealer B.

J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
Home: 12027 Mulholland Dr., Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX
77025, 713-667-9417
----- Original Message -----
From: lawrence Jackman
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Tractors per Flatcar & Rates Charged?

Then you would be foolish to ship four tractors when you can ship 10 for
the same rate. I have seen many box car loads of home appliances move on
the carload but the rate is paid to the final town and the car stooped
to unload a few before it cot to the last town for a small fee. Say the
car was loaded in town A and going to the distributor in town b but he
knew that the dealer needed for in town C. So he orders ten shipped to C
and with a stop in town B where he unloads six and sends the car on to
C. Also all these cars are weighed and at leas back then they would have
this on the weigh bill plus the rate. How it is done today I do not
know. A car load of house hold appliances or tractors or submarine
motors had to meet a minimum weight or you will find yourself in the LCL
department. I never saw a way bill that did not have the weight of the
load on it. And if the bill was marked "est" by the weight we had to
weigh it before delivery. And before the RR would accept an estimated
weight the shipper had to have an agreement with RR on the subject.
Thank you
Larry Jackman
What is the transloading Business today? Is that about the same as a
freight forwarder of my time??
Thank you

tgregmrtn@... wrote:
> Mike and all,
> Being in the Transloading Business in today's world I have to say I
will ship
> anything that you want me to in your car as long as it doesn't go over
> to the car. The rate will be the same THANK YOU. $7200.00 to Nichols
> in Brooklyn, NY or $7400.00 to most spots in Florida and yes we do
ship there
> quite often. The point is that most freight moves on a per car rate.
> items like grain, coal, minerals, and bulk commodities move on a per
> weight. I think it was this way in the 50's as well, Farm Implements
> moved just as autos and auto parts on a per car basis. So ship only
four but
> cover your freight as we would remind you...
> Greg Martin

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