If you decide to model a partly unloaded flatcar, consider the
following
when building the model.

Tractors were loaded in pairs, each wired to one another, so I would
model a
50ft with two tractors missing.
A tractor loaded by itself would have to have additonal choking added
as it
could no longer rely on it's sibling.

The real tractors would most likely be unloaded at a loading platform,
and
probably would be driven off the side of the car onto the platform.
The crew
would only remove the choking that they needed to unload the tractors,
so
some of the choking would be left in place exactly were it was when
the car
was fully loaded. Other chokes would either be completely missing, or
randomly scatted on the deck. If a crane was used, the chokes would be
simply left in place on the deck and only the tie down wires would be
removed.

Old choking tended to be the problem of the next shipper to use the
car, so
should be part of the partly loaded model.

Ian Clasper

----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Stephen Sandifer" <jssand@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Tractors per Flatcar & Rates Charged?

In the early 50s it was not unusual for a box car of appliances to

stop at
2-3 locations to unload part of its load. Tractors could be the same
way.
There may have been 8-10 when it left the plant, but possibly 4 were
unloaded at dealer A and the balance 200 miles away at dealer B.

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----- Original Message -----
From: lawrence Jackman
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Tractors per Flatcar & Rates Charged?


Then you would be foolish to ship four tractors when you can ship

10 for

the same rate. I have seen many box car loads of home appliances

move on

the carload but the rate is paid to the final town and the car

stooped

to unload a few before it cot to the last town for a small fee.

Say the

car was loaded in town A and going to the distributor in town b

but he

knew that the dealer needed for in town C. So he orders ten

shipped to C

and with a stop in town B where he unloads six and sends the car

on to

C. Also all these cars are weighed and at leas back then they

would have

this on the weigh bill plus the rate. How it is done today I do

not

know. A car load of house hold appliances or tractors or submarine
motors had to meet a minimum weight or you will find yourself in

the LCL

department. I never saw a way bill that did not have the weight of

the

load on it. And if the bill was marked "est" by the weight we had

to

weigh it before delivery. And before the RR would accept an

estimated

weight the shipper had to have an agreement with RR on the

subject.

Thank you
Larry Jackman
What is the transloading Business today? Is that about the same

as a

freight forwarder of my time??
Thank you

tgregmrtn@... wrote:
>
> Mike and all,
>
> Being in the Transloading Business in today's world I have to

say I
will ship

> anything that you want me to in your car as long as it doesn't

go over
gross

> to the car. The rate will be the same THANK YOU. $7200.00 to

Nichols
siding

> in Brooklyn, NY or $7400.00 to most spots in Florida and yes we

do
ship there

> quite often. The point is that most freight moves on a per car

rate.
But

> items like grain, coal, minerals, and bulk commodities move on a

per
hundred

> weight. I think it was this way in the 50's as well, Farm

Implements
likely

> moved just as autos and auto parts on a per car basis. So ship

only
four but

> cover your freight as we would remind you...
>
> Greg Martin

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