Re: C&WI Haskell & Barker Gondola


For those accurate dimensions and super detailing, keep the IRM Pullman Library in mind. It took us 8 months with the help of Dennis Storzak to get the fragmenting H&B drawings from tubes onto stable backing and organized into flat files. Your orders for one, two or more drawings copies will allow us to continue restoring more items in the vast collection. We may have drawings on the gondolla including the general drawing. Dennis if you are watching, all the freight correspondence files are racked in the new storage facility and we can start looking up freight car lot numbers per requests, transferring the lot files to archival file boxes as we look up the given numbers.
Ted Anderson, Pullman Library curator <>

--- In, Bob McCarthy <thesupplycar@...> wrote:


     Could you share an image or two with me off line?


Bob McCarthy

--- On Thu, 3/1/12, Paul Hillman <chris_hillman@...> wrote:

From: Paul Hillman <chris_hillman@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: C&WI Haskell & Barker Gondola
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 3:32 AM


Thanks for the kind words.

These cars were built starting around 1906 for the C&WI (I think). At one time they had 600 gondolas on their roster. I don't know when they were finally retired, maybe in the 1970's. They were in use in the 1960's. I saw them personally in the early '60's and they appear in several photos of Dearborn Station and elsewhere in the '60's. So, they fit into the entire STMFC timeline covered.

I'm modeling the Chicago area in 1950, including the C&WI Dearborn Station. For me these cars are a must-have, and I've been wanting to build them for about 50 years. Grew up in Chicago along the C&WI mainline to Dolton, Ill.

The HO model started with a Funaro & Camerlengo resin kit based on a Rutland RR car. Basswood was used for the ends and end-beams, styrene for straps, I-beams and other parts, and Archer rivets.

The basic car is very light. I cast low-temp, car-weighting material, metal bars, and glued them between the 2 frame center-beams. I made a wooden form to the dimensions of between the center-beams, cut the low-temp into pieces, then melted it with a soldering iron to melt and flow-into the wood-form. It still needs some more weight but there's not much room except at the 4 underframe corners, without terribly mutating the underbody appearance.

On another list, one member said that the (probably) last remaining C&WI survivor of this car, at the Illinois RR Museum, which was is poor shape, had finally fallen apart during a recent severe wind storm. If I were a rich man, I would offer to buy the remaining car and all of it's metal parts, and rebuild it. All it would take is a bunch of wood and work, and maybe would be easier than building this model under a microscope. (Magnifiers for all us old geezers???)

Paul Hillman

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From: wheelknocker<mailto:steamers01@...>


Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:06 PM

Subject: [STMFC] Re: C&WI Haskell & Barker Gondola


Very nice work! What time-frame does this car fit into? I assume the model is HO? Is the model made from Basswood, brass or styrene or all? Did you add any weight to enhance the cars tracking?

Sorry for so many questions, when I see such an obviously well done model, I like to pick up any pointers I can.


Greg Rich

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