Re: Tank Car Id

Bruce Smith

Funny thing is, not knowing a thing about SP&S vs NP, or SP or UP or Buford or wherever, when I looked at the photo I thought NP <G>. I had noticed the spillage around the dome and one reason I suggested company service was the potential that it could be an auxiliary tender (water or oil) a suggestion that has been made in another post.

It certainly is possible that this car is in revenue service and then, of course, would likely be privately owned. By the 1944 date, there were more cars being freed up by pipeline construction, and of course there were always cars going left during the war, albeit in numbers vastly dwarfed by the rightward movement of crude.



Bruce F. Smith

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."


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On Mar 15, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:

I would not give too much weight to the SP&S 4-8-4 suggesting a possible SP&S
tankcar (though the SP&S did roster some MoW high walkway tank cars), as the
photo was taken in Paradise, MT. on the Northern Pacific, 100s of miles from
Spokane, WA., the farthest East the SP&S ran. How it was on the NP, I have not a
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

From: Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...<mailto:rhendrickson@...>>
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...>
Sent: Thu, March 15, 2012 10:31:14 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Tank Car Id

On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Bruce F. Smith wrote:
High walkway is obvious as is the narrow center sill. Potentially
an AC&F type 7, most likely in company service (trying to remember
if SP&S had any)

Not a bad guess, Bruce, but apparently wrong, as the car in the (not
very clear) image lacks AC&F style stub sills between the bolsters
and the end sills. Other builders besides AC&F built high running
board tank cars ca. 1910-1915 (Standard Tank Car Co., for one, though
this car lacks the sloping box section bolsters that were an STC
distinctive feature).

SP&S had a rag-tag fleet of second-hand tank cars, but AFAIK none of
them were high running board cars. However, SPS acquired a bunch of
second hand company service equipment from the NP, so the car in
question may have been a former NP car; NP did have high running
board company service tank cars.

Richard Hendrickson


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