Re: Freight Car Brown
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Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
It's been a while since I raised the question about what paint color or mix
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comes closest to CB&Q Indian Red (aka mineral red). I've found ten different published painting recommendations from straight out of the bottle to complex color mixes. Floquil 1 part D&H Caboose Red; 3 parts Southern Freight Car Brown Floquil Erie Lackawanna Maroon with a little Reefer White Floquil 1 part Caboose Red; 4 parts Boxcar Red Floquil Southern Freight Car Brown Floquil 9 parts Tuscan Red; 1 part Boxcar Red; 1 part Reefer White Floquil ATSF Mineral Brown ModelFlex Maroon Tuscan Oxide Red ModelFlex Dark Tuscan Oxide Red Poly Scale 1 part Special Oxide Red; 3 parts Zinc Chromate Primer Scalecoat II 1 part Tuscan Red; 1 part Boxcar Red These colors range from relatively brown to oxide red, so some of them are clearly the wrong color for CB&Q. I matched some paint chips from a depot that was last painted in the 1950s, but the resulting color seemed to have too much zinc chromate and not enough red. Probably the color shift on the paint chips was from sun exposure over 50 years, and I don't have any idea what a newly painted depot or freight car looked like in 1953. The mix that matched the paint chips using Poly Scale is: 5 parts Zinc Chromate Primer 2 parts ATSF Red 2 parts Special Oxide Red Was the same paint use on structures also used on wood sided freight cars before the Q got their first all steel Class XM-32 box cars? I have several double and shingle sheathed box cars ready for paint, and I'm still undecided about what to use. Does anyone out there have an authentic color chip to match? Nelson Moyer
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Ed Hawkins Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:11 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Freight Car Brown On Jun 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Brian Rochon wrote: I notice that all of the listed colors show a start date of 1944. DidBrian, Based on the ACF paint samples from 1931 to 1952, there was a general trend from darker, browner, and flatter paints during the 1930s to the early 1940s to freight car colors that were lighter, with more red, and more glossy in the immediate postwar years and into the 1950s. There were some exceptions to this rule with UP being one example that used an oxide color in the late 1930s. Several ACF Santa Fe "Mineral Brown" paint samples for cars built during the 1930s to 1944 were quite dark brown and flat. Comparing to Tru-Color Paint #19, they are a perfect match. By the late 1940s ATSF Mineral Brown had changed considerably with more of a red-brown hue. Around the end of World War II the paint manufacturers apparently reformulated paints and the names often used "synthetic" in the description. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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