Re: Post War Stock Cars
Jim, first for some reason I am not getting your postings, I have learned
about them as others have responded and I received those postings. Shades of
the problems I have with getting messages sent to the list by Jack Burgess.
Now to your questions about Post War Stock Cars, dealing mostly with the
movement of livestock.
Livestock was shipped to where there was demand. Demand changed as
demographics changed, ie post WWII the population began moving west. Post
1900 most slaughter operations occurred in the midwest, with much of it
occurring west of Chicago. By the 50's Omaha had surpassed Chicago as the
largest union stockyard operation in the country. And yes there were major
slaughter operations in the west: Los Angeles, South San Francisco,
Portland, Tacoma, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Denver and Pueblo. Some were
national names, other were local companies, who filled the needs of the
west. By the mid 60's (post STMFC list) most livestock and meat traffic had
shifted to trucks. And most of this traffic was from west to east.
Livestock feed and rest stations were different from what you call gateways,
and were located at numerous locations, spaced to accommodate the 28 hr law.
They're design was to care for livestock and then send them on their way,
often on the same road. What you call gateways were more likely
destinations, ie locations of major slaughter operations. I do have some
evidence of livestock moving through (or around) Chicago or St Louis on
eastern road trains with minimal delay.
As Steve pointed out most railroads operating west of the Mississippi had
significant numbers of stockcars. You could see these cars almost anywhere a
farmer/rancher thought he could make more money selling his livestock.
I don't have much on post War routings. But do have info about the largest
stockyards,
From a 1922 Government map. Some locations are guesses as the map/chart is
rather small and not all locations are marked beyond a number.
1922 Cattle Markets - relative size based on average yearly receipts of
cattle and calves 1916-1920
1. Chicago Il
2. Kansas City
3. Omaha
4. Fort Worth TX
5. E St Louis IL
6. St Paul MN
7. Jersey City NJ
8. Sioux City IA
9. Denver CO
10. St Joseph MO
11. Buffalo NY
12. Oklahoma City OK
13. Pittsburgh PA
14. Indianapolis IN
15. Cincinnati OH
16. Milwaukee WI
17. New York City NY
18. Wichita KS
19. Cleveland OH
20. Philadelphia PA
21. Detroit MI
22. Baltimore MD
23. Louisville KY
24. Amarillo TX
25. San Antonia TX
26. ? Hoboken NJ ?
27. Pueblo or Colorado Springs CO
28. New Orleans LA
29. El Paso TX
30. Portland OR
31. Boston MA
32. Ogden UT
33. Nashville TN
34. Minneapolis MN
35. Albany/Troy NY
36. Seattle WA
37. Spokane WA
38. Toledo OH
39. Salt Lake City UT
40. Montgomery AL
41. Cheyenne WY
42. Evansville IN
43. S San Francisco CA
44. ? Elma Ohio ?
45. Peoria IL
46. ? Richmond VA ?
47. Tacoma WA
48. Atlanta GA
49. Birmingham AL
50. Knoxville TN
51. ? Alexandria VA ?
52. Chattanooga TN
53. ? Marion OH ?
54. Jacksonville FL
55. ? La Fayette IN ?
56. Augusta GA
57. ? Fostoria OH ?
58. Dallas TX
59. Sioux Falls SD
60. Billings MT
61. Memphis TN
62. Pasco WA
63. Columbia SC
64. ? Macon GA ?
65. Columbus OH
1922 Hog Markets -- Receipts of Hogs at Public Stockyards 1916-1921. Again
ranking largest to smallest based upon receipts.
1. Chicago IL
2. E St Louis Il
3. Omaha NE
4. Kansas City MO
5. Indianapolis IN
6. St Paul MN
7. Sioux City IA
8. St Joseph MO
9. Pittsburgh PA
10. Buffalo NY
11. Cincinnati OH
12. Cleveland OH
13. Baltimore MD
14. Fort Worth TX
15. Jersey City NJ
16. New York NY
17. Louisville KY
18. Nashville TN
19. Oklahoma City OK
20. Wichita KS
Maps for this kind of information can be found at:
http://etc.usf.edu/maps/galleries/us/agriculture/index.php?pageNum_Recordset
1=10
<http://etc.usf.edu/maps/galleries/us/agriculture/index.php?pageNum_Recordse
t1=10&totalRows_Recordset1=141> &totalRows_Recordset1=141
And here is a listing of Union Stockyards (from an undated map).
S San Francisco CA
Los Angeles CA
Denver CO
Atlanta GA
Chicago IL
Peoria IL
E St Louis IL
Indianapolis IN
Wichita KS
Louisville KY
Brighton MA
S St Paul MN
St Joseph MO
Joplin MO
Kansas City MO
Billings MT
West Fargo ND
Omaha NE
Jersey City NJ
Lancaster PA
Pittsburgh PA
Cincinnati OH
Oklahoma City OK
Portland OR
Sioux Falls SD
Memphis TN
Fort Worth TX
Houston TX
San Antonio TX
Ogden UT
Milwaukee WI
Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
about them as others have responded and I received those postings. Shades of
the problems I have with getting messages sent to the list by Jack Burgess.
Now to your questions about Post War Stock Cars, dealing mostly with the
movement of livestock.
Livestock was shipped to where there was demand. Demand changed as
demographics changed, ie post WWII the population began moving west. Post
1900 most slaughter operations occurred in the midwest, with much of it
occurring west of Chicago. By the 50's Omaha had surpassed Chicago as the
largest union stockyard operation in the country. And yes there were major
slaughter operations in the west: Los Angeles, South San Francisco,
Portland, Tacoma, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Denver and Pueblo. Some were
national names, other were local companies, who filled the needs of the
west. By the mid 60's (post STMFC list) most livestock and meat traffic had
shifted to trucks. And most of this traffic was from west to east.
Livestock feed and rest stations were different from what you call gateways,
and were located at numerous locations, spaced to accommodate the 28 hr law.
They're design was to care for livestock and then send them on their way,
often on the same road. What you call gateways were more likely
destinations, ie locations of major slaughter operations. I do have some
evidence of livestock moving through (or around) Chicago or St Louis on
eastern road trains with minimal delay.
As Steve pointed out most railroads operating west of the Mississippi had
significant numbers of stockcars. You could see these cars almost anywhere a
farmer/rancher thought he could make more money selling his livestock.
I don't have much on post War routings. But do have info about the largest
stockyards,
From a 1922 Government map. Some locations are guesses as the map/chart is
rather small and not all locations are marked beyond a number.
1922 Cattle Markets - relative size based on average yearly receipts of
cattle and calves 1916-1920
1. Chicago Il
2. Kansas City
3. Omaha
4. Fort Worth TX
5. E St Louis IL
6. St Paul MN
7. Jersey City NJ
8. Sioux City IA
9. Denver CO
10. St Joseph MO
11. Buffalo NY
12. Oklahoma City OK
13. Pittsburgh PA
14. Indianapolis IN
15. Cincinnati OH
16. Milwaukee WI
17. New York City NY
18. Wichita KS
19. Cleveland OH
20. Philadelphia PA
21. Detroit MI
22. Baltimore MD
23. Louisville KY
24. Amarillo TX
25. San Antonia TX
26. ? Hoboken NJ ?
27. Pueblo or Colorado Springs CO
28. New Orleans LA
29. El Paso TX
30. Portland OR
31. Boston MA
32. Ogden UT
33. Nashville TN
34. Minneapolis MN
35. Albany/Troy NY
36. Seattle WA
37. Spokane WA
38. Toledo OH
39. Salt Lake City UT
40. Montgomery AL
41. Cheyenne WY
42. Evansville IN
43. S San Francisco CA
44. ? Elma Ohio ?
45. Peoria IL
46. ? Richmond VA ?
47. Tacoma WA
48. Atlanta GA
49. Birmingham AL
50. Knoxville TN
51. ? Alexandria VA ?
52. Chattanooga TN
53. ? Marion OH ?
54. Jacksonville FL
55. ? La Fayette IN ?
56. Augusta GA
57. ? Fostoria OH ?
58. Dallas TX
59. Sioux Falls SD
60. Billings MT
61. Memphis TN
62. Pasco WA
63. Columbia SC
64. ? Macon GA ?
65. Columbus OH
1922 Hog Markets -- Receipts of Hogs at Public Stockyards 1916-1921. Again
ranking largest to smallest based upon receipts.
1. Chicago IL
2. E St Louis Il
3. Omaha NE
4. Kansas City MO
5. Indianapolis IN
6. St Paul MN
7. Sioux City IA
8. St Joseph MO
9. Pittsburgh PA
10. Buffalo NY
11. Cincinnati OH
12. Cleveland OH
13. Baltimore MD
14. Fort Worth TX
15. Jersey City NJ
16. New York NY
17. Louisville KY
18. Nashville TN
19. Oklahoma City OK
20. Wichita KS
Maps for this kind of information can be found at:
http://etc.usf.edu/maps/galleries/us/agriculture/index.php?pageNum_Recordset
1=10
<http://etc.usf.edu/maps/galleries/us/agriculture/index.php?pageNum_Recordse
t1=10&totalRows_Recordset1=141> &totalRows_Recordset1=141
And here is a listing of Union Stockyards (from an undated map).
S San Francisco CA
Los Angeles CA
Denver CO
Atlanta GA
Chicago IL
Peoria IL
E St Louis IL
Indianapolis IN
Wichita KS
Louisville KY
Brighton MA
S St Paul MN
St Joseph MO
Joplin MO
Kansas City MO
Billings MT
West Fargo ND
Omaha NE
Jersey City NJ
Lancaster PA
Pittsburgh PA
Cincinnati OH
Oklahoma City OK
Portland OR
Sioux Falls SD
Memphis TN
Fort Worth TX
Houston TX
San Antonio TX
Ogden UT
Milwaukee WI
Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org