Re: { SPAM 2 }: Re: Shipping a plane on TOP of a boxcar?

Steve and Barb Hile

And that the ramp down is from one boxcar while the platform is on another.

Interestingly, they are Bangor and Aroostook boxcars and the plane is
lettered for a commercial guy who flies in the Northeast, including places
in Maine.

The guys doing the unloading (note the way everyone is facing on the down
ramp shot) are pretty well dressed for laborers, but it must be cold.


Steve Hile


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Bruce F. Smith
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Subject: Re: { SPAM 2 }:[STMFC] Re: Shipping a plane on TOP of a boxcar?

I'll add that there seems to be a pretty significant wood platform on the
roof of the car. It's hard to tell if the Cub is being brought up from the
ground, or lowered to the ground in the photo with it on the ramp. Weird.



Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

On May 30, 2013, at 5:52 AM, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:

Nick Fry wrote:
"Take a gander here:

We found these photos at the Barriger Library while cataloging our
new B&A collection. No caption on the back.

I thought you all would find them interesting, if someone has this at
RPM East next year I'm buying them a drink.

If anyone has any ideas about what's going on, please let me know."

No way the aircraft was shipped on top of this boxcar as it wouldn't
make clearances. However, aircraft factories before WWII weren't
necessarily set up for efficient manufacturing (Ford's Willow Run
B-24 plant was still years in the future), with assembly facilities
often set up on the second floor of buildings. (Brewster in Long
Island City was a notorious case as their inefficient arrangement
contributed to their difficulties meeting wartime production.) I
have a photo of the wing assembly of the Spirit of St. Louis being
lowered from the second floor of Ryan Aircraft in San Diego in using
a Santa Fe automobile car as an intermediate platform. (Charles
Lindbergh is seen in the photo helping to push the car out of the

This aircraft is a Piper Cub. Here's a photo of Piper's Lock Haven,
PA facility:

I couldn't find anything on the layout of this factory, but the photos
could be documenting an event similar to that of the Ryan photo. I
did find a website of the Piper Aviation Museum in Lock Haven, who
might be able to shed more light on their manufacturing facility

Ben Hom


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