Re: Looking for a Short Line
Craig Zeni has mentioned it already, but I’ll second it – the NYO&W.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
1) early to mid 1930s - The highest level of traffic was in this time
2) researchable through visits, photos, books - Check, plus an active
historical society with a full set of track maps from the 1920s available
and more. Much of the ROW is now hiking trails, but is accessible.
3) move "a lot" of interchange - Bridge traffic from Scranton and Oswego to
Maybrook, NY. Interchanges with the NYC, D&H, NH, L&NE, L&HR and others.
4) milk cars, log cars, covered hoppers, 50' auto boxes... Milk cars - you
bet. Lots of them. Log cars - would wood flats count (used for servicing the
wood chemical industry)? Covered hoppers - sure, though probably later than
the early 1930s. 50' auto cars - on the through freights.
5) "lots of small to medium steamers" - Never had anything but, at least by
most standards... :>)
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Looking for a Short Line
The covered hoppers and 50' auto boxes are a challenge for most 1930's short
lines, let alone ones with milk and logging. The milk, logging and multiple
small loco's (including multiple types) can be covered by the Montpelier and
Wells River or the St. Johnsbury and Lamoille County for a couple in New
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Bruce F. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Looking for a Short Line
I don't want to be "snarky" but the request by John Miller had some specific
requirements. We can sit here for months and name shortlines and branches
that were "cool" for so many reasons but that doesn't address the original
request and I have no idea what purpose that serves. Frankly, some of the
suggestions haven't even come close! Maybe if you addressed John's
"druthers" it might help?
1) early to mid 1930s
2) researchable through visits, photos, books
3) move "a lot" of interchange
4) milk cars, log cars, covered hoppers, 50' auto boxes... (I'm not sure if
John meant this to be a list of required car types or more that he wanted
variety in the car types seen)
5) "lots of small to medium steamers" (so one or two won't cut it and much
as I like overhead wires, electrics won't cut it....)
I'll note that John seemed to want an independent short line, but then
backed off that saying it could be a "major". That is a relief since there
are few independent short lines that would meet all of John's requirements.
I would also suggest to John that he needs to clarify what he is looking for
in his model railroad. That is, what types of operation? How many trains?
How many operators? Many of these questions are more suited for discussion
on the opsig and layout design sig lists/web pages, but are integral in
driving the requirements for this layout.
Bruce F. Smith
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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