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Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut

Jim Betz
 

Hi,

1) I notice that on the Tangent web site these tank cars are
listed as part of "The Richard Hendrickson Collection" (sic).
If Richard is involved I think it is highly unlikely that any of
the numbers or lettering schemes are wrong. That name
may just be a 'tribute' and Richard may not be actually
supplying the research.

2) Wouldn't the change of brake rigging result in the tank
car equivalent of a reweigh ... and therefore the data
would be re-stenciled? (Not the "built date" but the
"reweigh date".)
And how about if the cars were re-painted. Certainly
they would have a new "reweigh date" ... and I would not
expect them to go 30 years without re-painting.

3) My personal preference for paint schemes and lettering
styles and lettering data is "that it be appropriate for
the era between 1945 to 1955 (or so)". I prefer the
car to be 100% correct for some date rather than a
mish-mash of some details being right and others wrong.
And I pay a LOT more attention to the overall paint and
lettering scheme than I do the details of the re-weigh
dates (or locations). But, and this is important, my
freight cars are a "traveling car fleet" because I don't
have a personal layout being used for Ops.

- Jim Betz

P.S. It wouldn't be wrong for me to refer to my car as a
"car float" ... or perhaps it and my trains case are
my "mobile fiddle yard".

On 10/21/2013 12:31 AM, STMFC@... wrote:
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1a. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: Tim O'Connor
1b. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: gastro42000
1c. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: Benjamin Hom
1d. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: jon miller
1e. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: Tim O'Connor
1f. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: Nelson Moyer
1g. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: tangentscalemodels
1h. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: Tony Thompson
1i. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
From: blheinley

2a. Re: NEO proplem?
From: Mark Stamm
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From: davesnyder59
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From: Douglas Harding
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1a. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
Posted by: "Tim O'Connor" timboconnor@... cf5250
Date: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:45 am ((PDT))

Martin Cooper wrote

> Hi: I am surprised that tangent would choose the 1930 build date for this model.

A late 1950's photo of freshly repainted GATX 1518 shows a built date of 1928 or 1929
(the second digit is a little blurry)

Tim O'Connor






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1b. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
Posted by: martincooper@... gastro42000
Date: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:15 am ((PDT))

hi: i know when the car was built with k brakes. with increasing demand for accuracy a reweigh date in the 40s would be preferrable. my erro r was that i should have said new date 1930. there is an accompanying prototype photo of the car with the new 1930 date and k brakes where the model has ab brakes. marty cooper

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Martin Cooper wrote

Hi: I am surprised that tangent would choose the 1930 build date for this model.
A late 1950's photo of freshly repainted GATX 1518 shows a built date of 1928 or 1929
(the second digit is a little blurry)

Tim O'Connor






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1c. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
Posted by: "Benjamin Hom" b.hom@... benjaminfrank_hom
Date: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:21 am ((PDT))

Marty Cooper wrote:
"i know when the car was built with k brakes. with increasing demand for accuracy a reweigh date in the 40s would be preferrable. my error was that i should have said new date 1930. there is an accompanying prototype photo of the car with the new 1930 date and k brakes where the model has ab brakes."
You fell into the "tank car reweigh date" trap. Tank cars are billed by volume, not weight, so it's not required to reweight them periodically. It's common for a tank car to retain their NEW date for years after they were built, so this model with a NEW 1930 date and AB brakes is completely plausible.
Ben Hom





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1d. Re: 3-Dome GATX Type 30 Tank Car from Tangent make surprise debut
Posted by: "jon miller" atsfus@... atsfus
Date: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:24 am ((PDT))

On 10/20/2013 6:21 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
so this model with a NEW 1930 date and AB brakes is completely plausible.
The real question is probably when were the AB brakes fitted?
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