Re: NP Stock Cars represented by Central Valley kit


Thanks for the information on using sand as bedding.  I don't  think that this is common knowledge.

Merry Christmas all.

Bill Pardie

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From: Steve Sandifer
Date:12/23/2013 11:32 AM (GMT-10:00)
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] NP Stock Cars represented by Central Valley kit


Be careful with the "straw" stuff. Straw was commonly used in cold climates
with hogs, but sand was the most common bedding in stock cars.

Steve Sandifer
12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477

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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 2:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] NP Stock Cars represented by Central Valley kit

You would also want the Spring 2006 Volume 25 Issue #1 of the Manistreeter.
Our own Ed Ursem covered the correcting of the original kit car extremely
well. His 82990 model does not have the lumber door. Mine were originally
built when I trusted model manufacturers for accuracy, so I have the lumber
doors. Having built 3 of the original kits, I am quite familiar with all of
their assembly issues.

Of note I can tell you the ends and sides need to have their beveled edge
cleaned up to fit properly. They have a bevel but at the extreme end is a
right angle that needs to go. I used a 1" wide nail board to sand the edges
and parting lines. You can get the boards from Walgreens or most cosmetic
shops. If you look closely on the roof top and underside, you will see a
centerline to use in sectioning.

I used cast metal cows for weight. I'll use sheet lead next time. The
Dyna-Models cows cost me $15 back then. Woodland Scenics tall grass was
chopped with a single edge razor to make hay for the floor covering. The
usual plastic for metal grabs and 23 years later, PanPastel for the roof and
some highlights on the side boards and trucks.
The photos I later found showed various shades of Gray and Oxide Red on the
horizontal boards .I duplicated these with glazes of gray and Flat Clear
Poly Scale. Hand mixing on a recycled margarine tub lid used as a palette.

I have found photos available on the web including the Fallen Flags site
(Jim Sands) and ( Jeff Terry). Decals were available from
Champ and A-Line

Rob Manley
Midwest Mod-U-Trak
"Better modeling through personal embarassment"
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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:09 AM
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] NP Stock Cars represented by Central Valley kit

Richard, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I look forward to the photo.

Alex Schneider

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Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:21 PM
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On Dec 22, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Alex Schneider <aschneiderjr@...>

I've had a CV stock car kit for some time and just got around to examining
it. I have heard that it is too wide and that the NPHA offers replacement
ends, but I guess I am more in doubt about the sides. The cars have
lettering boards reading NORTHERN PACIFIC to the left of the doors and the
car number to the right. There is a rectangular lettering board with
capacity, load limit and light weight over the right truck, but no board
over the left. See This
generally conforms to the equipment diagram on the NPHA web site. It also
conforms to a photo of #83083 dated 7/13/47 on page 124 of "The Postwar
Freight Car Fleet" by Larry Kline and Ted Culotta.

When did the location of reporting marks, number and capacity data over the
left truck become mandatory? Are any photos of these cars with such
relocated lettering available? If this arrangement was still in use in late
1952 I'm OK, but there is no reason to build an anachronism.
Alex, the location of reporting marks, numbers, and weight data above the
left truck was AAR standard practice but was never mandatory, at least not
in the period covered by this list, and the lettering arrangement you
describe continued to be used by the NP for many years. I have a photo of
an NP stock car with that lettering arrangement dated 1974. I'm sending you
off-list a scan of a photo taken in October of 1952.

Richard Hendrickson

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