Re: Seley Hopper ca. 1944


Thanks for the feedback.
These cars had Bettendorf open T-section sideframe trucks.  I believe they kind of "beat the crap" out of all their wooden body flat-bottom and hopper-bottomed gondola cars using them for moving limestone and iron ore.  That industry died in the 1923-1926 timeframe.  I believe their 50-ton trucks went under 40-ton box cars having arch-bar trucks for a few more years.

I would like to see a scan of their CBC drwg some day.
Al Kresse

From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:42:49 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Seley Hopper ca. 1944


Did any of the l&n or ACL cars survive to a later date?  Or did any SRR cars last to the 50's

Kevin Sprayberry

On Jul 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, "Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


>C&Os were gone from Revenue Svc  by 1940???
>Al Kresse
Hi Al,
Actually, they were gone LONG before WWII.
The C&O cars were in the 20810-20999 number series. In 1913, there were 170 of these cars, in 1917, 149 cars, but by January 1925 the number series was gone, as were any hoppers with the identical dimensions. The cars MAY have been renumbered, but why would the car dimensions have changed in the ORER so drastically to make them untraceable?
Overall, Seley hoppers weren't very durable, which is why they barely lasted 25 years on the N&W, and as a car type really didn't survive the Depression, except for the late-built Southern cars. I think that's one huge reason why most in this hobby haven't paid a whole lot of attention to the cars, since they're mostly "off the radar" long before the time that most of the mainstream herd models.
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

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