And I thought you were poking fun at the guys' discussion!
"'A Premo' armprem2@... [STMFC]"
My apologies to the group.The previous email was intended for my
daughter' A. Premo
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> From: MDelvec952@... [STMFC]
> To: STMFC@...
Friday, August 08, 2014 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Demise of
> I know we're all risking the
gallows for talking about this, but
> since RMC is a magazine of choice
for most of the RPM community
> because of its steady flow of quality
STMFC content, I'd like to add
> a few thoughts. Ten years of my life
was spent with Carstens as a
> stafffer and three times that long as a
contributor, so I've got a
> lot of heart and soul in that place, and
many personal relationships.
> Rumors of its demise are
exagerated. Times have been tough and there
> are reorganization plans
in the works that could take on a few forms.
> Please be patient, but
the next few weeks are significant. The
> appreciation of the venerable
title of RMC is not lost in the
there is more information flowing in far more outlets then ever
> in our
field, and yes that in every area the print media is evolving
> in the
world of electronic distribution. Wise business people are
how to comingle print and digital media rather than to
> compete against
> I've presided over an NRHS Chapter for 20 years, and
from that perch
> I'll also venture that the model railroad hobby is
still growing. The
> Thomas generation is getting old enough to buy
train sets and many of
> today's railroad buffs are getting some of
their jollies on line with
> hours of model railroad videos on youtube,
facebook and elsewhere.
> While the ranks of the traditional model
railroad clubs are thinning
> through attrition, there are other forms
that are popping up. One
> growing area is the Train Sim crowd, building
pikes and creating
> equipment in MicroSoft Train Simulator. A couple of
our members are
> quietly recreating long-lost and abandoned railroads
full size with
> actual scenery and grades, and designing proper
equipment for that
> territory and swapping files.
future venture of any kind in our field is going to need a
presence. While I wouldn't say our Chapter has the best web
> site in
the field, I do keep up a good facebook presence and through
we've raised more than $40k in contributions and grants for
restoration projects, a great amount of excitement that gets the
computer crowd trackside when something unusual comes through, and
even the young kids (14 and up) are getting out to scrape paint and
learn about working on the real stuff, and riding the caboose, bunny
and Santa Trains. Our members are building a three-rail, two-level
pike in our Lackawanna baggage car, and a couple of the youngins are
helping with that. Granted, North Jersey is the mostly densely
populated part of America. But while the kids are coming out and
watching trains and looking at model railroad videos on their smart
phones, I'm not sure the NRHS Chapters and traditional model railroad
clubs are going to survive as the dues go up to keep up with rising
rents and insurance costs. The NRHS will be bankrupt in two years if
it doesn't make some radical changes soon. In our area the larger
private model railroads all need operators, and I'd guess that more
modelers are operating those than at model railroad clubs. Since
are not open to the public, it requires a certain amount of
interaction to be invited. On a personal side, many of the
> resin kits
I've built are running on private railroads. I don't
> expect to build
my own railroad until the Railroad Retirement Board
> sends along my
"cash for clunkers."
> The hobby is evolving. Without getting
into why RMC is reorganizing
> or what the employees are going through,
it does look like the
> magazine and its philosophy on content will
> ....Mike Del
> From: Tom Baker bakert@... [STMFC]
> To: STMFC
> Sent: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Demise of RMC?
> Tim and
> Well, you are certainly right about change in delivery
> media, but it does seem to me that fewer of us are out
there in all
> scales. I know of three railroad historical
societies--and there may be
> others I don't know of--that have gone to
the E-zine format, a very good
> idea, I think. I also know of several
societies that have experienced a
> drop in membership due to the
passing of their members.
> Then there is an interesting shift
among occurring among the hi-rail
> crowd, a push toward greater
prototype accuracy. I am no hi-railer, but
> I will have to admit that
even the 3-rail manufacturers have produced
> some great looking
prototype locomotives. Problem is these guys still
> are not at the
level of accuracy we scalers want, and that is true
> especially with
the freight cars that come off the line: They're better
> than those
truncated things, the 6464-series box cars for example, but
> have a
long way to go before the product would satisfy us even if we
> were in
> Another issue is that fewer and fewer scale modelers
are building cars.
> My HO modeling friend surmises that many of those
Sunshine kits sit on
> modelers shelves in the basement, attic, or
garage and there they stay.
> He is probably right.
> > I don't think it is demographics at all -- In
the 1960's when I was a
> > teenager, my Dad got Trains, Model
Railroader and RMC. And there were a
> > few hundred published books,
with some prototype railroads having 15 or
> > even 20 titles! My Dad
had maybe 30 or 40 books including Car
> Builder Cycs.
> > By the 1990's we also had Mainline Modeler, Model
> > Journal. And new publishers
cranking out new books every week.
> Usually more
> > than
several every week. Heck we're up to issue #28 of the RP Cyclopedia!
> > Now we have modeling ezines from historical societies, more
> than ever,
> > and tens of thousands of blogs, web
sites, photo sites, archival
> sites, etc.
> > People have
collections of hundreds of books and special publications.
> > I subscribe to RMC and I enjoy the magazine but really, in
> > of railroad and modeling information that we live
in, will we really feel
> > at all deprived without it? Some months I
have no time to read even one
> > article.
It's not demographics -- it's information overload!
>> Although I had no idea of failed payments to authors and
> >> I have wondered what is happening at RMC.
First we lose Mainline Modeler
> >> and now maybe RMC. I haven't
figured out what exactly causes the muted
> >> draw Model
Railroader has for me, but its draw is definitely muted. The
series of articles by Ted Culotta and Clark Probst were really a big
>> draw for me, and I don't even model in HO, but in S. I saw the
> >> on S in the June issue a bit in the way of filler
but still helpful. I
> >> hope we do not lose RMC, but I cannot
halt the forward and inexorable
> >> march of
> >> Tom Baker
> > Posted by: Tim O'Connor
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