Poles as load


Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Cyril and List Members,

Thanks Cyril for the awesome images.

In particular, I was intrigued by the two images below, both apparently documenting the same pole load and set of cars...

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176444&catirn=10853286

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176481&catirn=10853285


It appears to me that the third vertical stake from the left is not attached to the flat car. It looks to me like it is attached to the timber load itself. Am I interpreting this correctly? I am a little surprised by this, it seems to me that making holes in the poles that constitute the load could compromise their strength and therefore their value...


- Claus Schlund

-----Original Message-----
From: Cyril and Lynn Durrenberger durrecj@... [STMFC]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:28 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] new lumber load kit from Owl Mountain

Tim, and others, here is a list of various loads on flat cars from photos in the Minnesota Historical Society. Yes, I know some of these are before "your era" but they should answer some of your complaints about the post Tony made about the lumber loads. There is even a photo of large timbers being loaded on a flat car. There are some photos showing how they loaded flat cars by hand. Note the large stacks of cut lumber that were being stored to be cured by air for a few months. This was a common practice many years ago.

There are several photos of poles loaded on several flat cars showing that this sort of thing was done (and in your era, what ever that is). There are a couple of views of lumber being loaded into box cars and one interesting one showing loading box parts into a box car. Just for fun I included some more photos of interesting loads on flat cars. There is even a photo of dirt being loaded on a M&StL flat car. Tony, sorry to leave you out, but I do not see any SP flat cars.

Loads of cut lumber of various heights

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10012642&catirn=10463381

Loading large timbers on flat car

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10153443&catirn=10788551

Loading lumber on flat cars

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10106537&catirn=10726888
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10106536&catirn=10726886
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10266400&catirn=10726885
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10266402&catirn=10726887

Loading lumber in box cars

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10012641&catirn=10463389
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10266399&catirn=10723527

Loading boards for boxes into a box car

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10266384&catirn=10699541

Poles loaded on flat cars

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10208206&catirn=10861836
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176469&catirn=10834642
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176444&catirn=10853286
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176445&catirn=10834635
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176481&catirn=10853285
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176448&catirn=10834582
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10176443&catirn=10834579

Other flat car loads

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10211728&catirn=10856113
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10214442&catirn=10847896
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10301917&catirn=10740999
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10117025&catirn=10743186
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10205358&catirn=10855721
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10206323&catirn=10854563
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10206324&catirn=10854564
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10111986&catirn=10736213
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10111987&catirn=10736215
http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/largerimage.php?irn=10192243&catirn=10831926

Cyril Durrenberger


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On Tue, 8/19/14, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [STMFC] new lumber load kit from Owl Mountain
To: STMFC@...
Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014, 10:12 PM














Chuck, if you've ever seen a single photo of a 70 ton
flat car

with a load that looks like that, can you post a link to it?
For

my part, as I said, I will try to use the product to model
what

I have seen in photos of 70 ton cars.



http://www.owlmtmodels.com/lumber/LMRC_Test_Shot_-3A.jpg



On the other hand, real steam era modelers are in better
shape.

Tony posted a photo showing a smaller car (40-42 ft) and
probably

with 50 ton capacity on his blog --



http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2012/07/open-car-loads-forest-products.html



Tony's photo also shows a car loaded with huge milled
timbers! I've

never seen a load like that before, except on models. I
wonder if huge

timbers like that travelled very far, or were sent to a
creosote plant

to be treated, before making a long trip.



Tim O'



This does look like a great product which I certainly
will try.

As to the size of the loads, I would think that the size
of loads

depends less on how much the shipper can load on a car
and

much more on how much the buyer has ordered. Not
every

load has to be maxed out on cubes or weight. If you put
a string

of cars together, the shipper will likely try to
minimize the number

of cars. But a single load or a load and a half may not
max out.

Chuck Peck












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