Re: Degrees of Weathering


arved_grass
 

Salt is a pretty aggresive corrosive agent. Research has pointed to the Chlorine ions (Cl-) being the specific culprit in aircraft structures (which are mostly Aluminum, but the effect is the same on ferrous materials), and I can't think of a more salt-rich (and thus corrosion prone) environment than the brine in a reefer's ice bunk. Yet, in all the photos of PFE cars I've studied, I can't remember a single one showing a rusted out ice bunk. Perhaps someone can point out some examples I haven't seen, or can't remember, but I simply cannot recall seeing anythinig like the rust modern freight car modelers have to reproduce.

Yes, I have read "Pacific Fruit Express" by Tony Thompson et al, and reference is made to corrosion problems and concerns with the ice bunks particularly in the move from wooden to steel (and aluminum) cars, but I don't remember seeing photographic evidence of the problems encountered. I'm willing to admit this may be a memory problem more than a lack of documentation. But as I deal with corrosion on a professional level (why? because despite all the problems we face with aircraft, "rust" is the one thing everyone seems to be able to understand - it's the lowest common denominator as far as problem understanding goes), I tend to pay attention when I see similar problems in other fields.

I think part of "it" was the fact that in the "Steam Era" we didn't have as much of a "disposable society," and equipment was expected to last far beyond expiration of its equipment trust. It was a much more man-power intensive time than it is today.

I could comment on how business (not just railroads) seem to prefer paying taxes toward unemployment and welfare than hire people to care for and maintain capital assets, but since commenting on business practices is verbotten, I'll excercise restraint in order to avoid moderator jail time.

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Arved Grass
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Sun, 8/24/14, anthony wagner anycw1@sbcglobal.net [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Degrees of Weathering
To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, August 24, 2014, 8:14 AM


 









I'm going to
stick my 2 cents in and observe that the paint used in the
steam era didn't hold up for decades the way it seems to
nowadays and I'd guess that cars still deemed essential
by their owners were subject to periodic trips to a carshop
for minor upgrades, if required, and certainly a repainting.
That would have eliminated the most extreme weathering
examples that I have seen in photos, taken mostly in the
fifties and later, when budgets were being squeezed and many
of the cars themselves were already becoming obsolescent. To
be sure there was still heavy weathering in steam days but,
as pointed out, mostly not to the extent seen later. Tony
Wagner


On Sunday, August
24, 2014 6:34 AM, "Olesen & Larsen
BROTVL@DADLNET.DK [STMFC]"
<STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




 














Mike
Brock asked: ...Do gentlemen have to wear ties?


I
think the closest to a proper definition is made by W. C.
Fields (making movies
in the STMFC era):

 

“A gentleman is a man who can play the
accordion but
doesn't.”

 

The rest is
optional.

 

Tom Larsen

Holte,
Denmark






















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