Re: Greetings, a new guy.

Bruce Smith


So, after all the bandwidth this weekend… terminology IS really important <VBG>  

As has been noted, cars with wood sheathing but steel structures lasted beyond WWII in large numbers and so your answer is yes.



Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."

On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

By all-wood, I mean the double sheathed wooden upper bodies with steel under-frames.

Those came with double-sheath wooden ends, steel framed single sheath ends, or all steel ends.......... all on then contemporary steel under-framing.

Each version with a wooden roof, or a steel roof.........

My pondering is if the strong steel framed, yet wooden sided cars would have lasted long enough to be almost commonly seen in use after WW-II.

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:17 PM, 'Bruce F. Smith'  wrote:


Single sheathed boxcars (aka “outside braced”) are certainly not “all wood”.  All wood boxcars were eliminated from interchange service prior to WW2.  This was due to the inability of the wood underframes to withstand the forces applied to them by heavier trains.

The next iteration would have been wooden superstructures with steel underframes.  These also lost favor in the years prior to WW2 and were mostly eliminated from interchange service prior to the start of WW2.  Refrigerator cars often had completely wooden superstructures as well.

The next iteration would be cars with steel superstructure and steel underframes with wood sheathing, such as the single sheathed car that you mention.  These began to be built prior to WW1 and lasted in service past the time frame of this list.  As for the MILW, they were likely not in interchange service at that time, but rather were in company service or MOW service.

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