- Why did this L&N car that it needed a huge fishbelly frame?
Re: Why did this L&N car that it needed a huge fishbelly frame?
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On the L&N gon, I find the pole or pipe sticking up out of the load to be interesting.
Debris from the loading tipple, perhaps? And the load seems to be mine run coal. Lots of fines
mixed with some lumps.
Chuck Peck in FL
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:54 PM, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@...
Dennis brings up a very good point. In
many cases of gondolas with clamshell unloading doors, not all of the load was
cleared. A decent amount of material still needed to be shoveled into the open
area on the car floor to be unloaded. Labor was pretty cheap but as those costs
rose, the self-clearing cars became more popular.
I can zoom in 250% on these images and see
details decently. I don’t see anything above the trucks that would suggest
a slope sheet. Note the rivet pattern at the center of the center sill outlines
possible center slope sheets between the hoppers.
Are those poling pockets on the end of
the car bolsters?
El Paso, TX
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] Why did this
L&N car that it needed a huge fishbelly frame?
Here's a great side view of that L&N coal gondola with the
sills. If you click on the image there, you can review a slightly larger
The side sills also formed part of the hopper sides. If you look at the above
referenced photo, you'll see two rows of rivets at a shallow angle between the
doors which define the slopes sheets between the doors. These cars are part way
between the flat floor gondola with a couple doors in the floor that the coal
could be shoveled through; these had bigger outlets and sloped floors (I wonder
if the slope sheets extend above the trucks?) but still weren't "self
clearing" like the later cars. Someone still had to go inside with a
shovel to push the coal to the outlets.
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