Re: 70-Ton triple offset side hopper with "Kiesel" sides/ends


Guys - Since no one responded to my first posting, I thought I'd better simplify the question:

What railroads had triple offset-side hoppers with AAR alternate design sides and ends prior to April of 1948?

The CP car (a Culotta photo on the Steam Era Freight Car website) appears to have been built after April of 1948, as it does not appear in the 4/48 ORER.


A.T. Kott

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Guys -

I recently purchased an O scale PSC brass 70-ton triple offset side hopper car that was different from what I anticipated!  I THOUGHT the car had what Karig describes as "Wine" sides/ends, where the creases in the side meet the top chord 1'-7" from the top corners of the sides, and the ends are a little more narrow because of this.  What I GOT was a car with "Kiesel" sides/ends!  (See Karig, p.74.)  The creases in the side meet the top chord right in the corners.

The car was factory painted C&O #79685.  It is a beautiful model, but that series of cars was built just after my cutoff date of April, 1948.

 If I keep the car, the question becomes - what other roads had 70-ton triple offset side 40' hopper cars with the "Kiesel" sides that were built before April, 1948? Canadian Pacific is a little far from south Texas, and I think they are too recent also.

Thanks!  I bought the car because it had a box with the same PSC number as seven of my other 70-ton triple offset side hoppers, all of which have the "Wine" sides/ends!  I never thought it would be different!

A.T. Kott

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