Re: Help ID'ing cars in MPA notebooks

James McDonald

Hi Denny,

Thanks for confirming that for me. I suspected as much from the materials I consulted, but it’s nice to be certain that the number is an error. The handwriting in the notation is clear, so it must be that the car number was just written down incorrectly. The alternate suggestions for potential car are helpful. I’ll update my records with this.

Take care,



James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD

8a. Re: Help ID'ing cars in MPA notebooks
Posted by: "Denny Wertz" wm1118sl
Date: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:06 am ((PDT))

James, Referring to the (WM #59792 at Red Lion, Pa., 1953, Ties, 282) car. The WM did not have any rolling stock in the 59xxx series as compiled by author Bill Oertly in the Revenue Equipment books, one on boxcars & one on gondolas done by the WMRHS & still available from them. Both books have a complete freight car roster between the years 1905-1995. It could be a class G2, G3 Gondola #series 50701-50800, blt 4-1937, or a class G43 Gondola #series 55758-55850, blt 1953, 1954. Hope this helps.
Denny Wertz, WMRHS

From: "James McDonald [STMFC]" <>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:56 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Help ID'ing cars in MPA notebooks

Dear list,

I’ve been transcribing some early 1950s pocket notebooks from the Superintendent of MoW on the Maryland & Pennsylvania RR. There are frequent notes of freight cars as MoW materials came in, or in rare cases things were shipped out by the MoW crew. I’ve been trying to collect info about the specifics of the cars listed. Most of them I was able to find in my 1950 ORER, rosters, equipment diagram books, or other literature, but I still have a few cars I would appreciate help identifying. Does anyone have info on the following cars they’d be willing to share?

Car Place Date Load
ATSF 169555 Red Lion, PA 1952 Bridge Timbers, 5
MILW 791153 Red Lion, PA 1952/3? Wire, GE Versatol-Geoprene
WM 59792 ? 1953 Ties, 282
DH 13789 Bruce, PA 09-01-1953 Ties, 342

All the best,

James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD.

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