Re: Erie 82500-83199 Series Box Car Question

Nelson Moyer

I enlarged the photo until it pixilated, and you’re right, it’s Apex. It’s also not painted black, and from what I can see of the running board, it’s not painted either. As for the roof, the few color photos in the fallen flags section are inconclusive. Could be painted, could be paint failure, but probably painted as new.


And yes, we/I forget about the SEFC web site, as Ed and you have reminded me. I’ve decided to use Plano Apex brake step and running board, though the opening for the brake staff differs from the photo. I don’t know of an Apex brake step with a round hole in the location shown in the end photo of Erie 82525.


Thanks to all who responded to my inquiries.


Nelson Moyer


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Actually, in 1946 I'd be very surprised to see a boxcar built new with a wood platform. I can clearly see the serrated edges and crossbars typical of an Apex brake step. The running board is also Apex.


Of course, if you don't believe me, you can go to the tables of Postwar AAR boxcar information located at, and click the link for the Postwar AAR cars with 4/4 ends. Ed Hawkins has already answered your questions, with the exception of whether or not the roof was painted. And I don't know the answer to that one. 


People forget about the Steam Era Freight Cars site, and the wonderful information stored there. Ed Hawkins has answered most questions anyone could have about specialties for the 1932 ARA, 1937 AAR, 1942 AAR, Postwar AAR, and PS-1 boxcars.



Bob Heninger

Minot, ND

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