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I then suppose the car below is a former Fe-19. The class We-19
almost seems too easy. Photo taken in South Los Angeles, March
1975, complete with an insouciant pigeon on the roof (at extreme
Garth Groff 🏴
On 5/9/18 8:24 PM, Eric Lombard wrote:
Tim and Charlie...
and everyone else who might have an interest:
Observations and thoughts...
In my original response(s) I did not consider the the other
classes because the physical features of the car indicated Fe-19
1. The cars get bigger with time:
2. Some physical details change with time:
- Fe-5 inside width 9-2, inside height 10-4
- Fe-12 inside width 9-3, inside height 10-5
- Fe-15 inside width 9-5, inside height 10-5
- Fe-19 inside width 9-5, inside height 10-6
The features of the car in question is identical to #4, a Fe-19 as
is the car nee #5792 in the Arizona Ry Museum.
- Fe-5: at the corners the end plates wrap around and are
riveted to the side plates as is seen in early steel cars, the
ends of the body bolsters (or bolster extensions?) appear as
an I-beam, the side sill reinforcement is confined to little
more than the width of the door opening
- Fe-12: Photo needed!!
- Fe-15: at the corners the end and side plates are covered by
an angle riveted to both, the ends of the body bolsters appear
as an I-beam, the side sill reinforcement is confined to
little more than the width of the door opening.
- Fe-19: at the corners the end and side plates are covered by
an angle riveted to both, the ends of the body bolsters are
covered by a large channel "tab", the side sill reinforcement
extends a side panel width beyond the outer edge of the main
door (though I have seen one photo of an early member of the
series with the short reinforcement).
The end features of the cars are apparently NOT class specific -
at least that anyone has been able to determine. Rather mixes of
"reverse" Dreadnaught and reverse Murphy panels and blank sheets
are used in all classes (and in 50-6 cars being rebuilt at the
same time). In both cases the two ends of the car may be
Some of the cars were renumbered:
Fe-05 63000-63254 RENO 4400-4648 begin 1956
Fe-12 63651-63750 RENO 5100-5199 begin 1953
Fe-15 63255-63504 19 RENO 6360-6378 1943, IH 12-4, end
doors, airplane, RENO back 1945-6 to original height
20 RENO 6670-6689
1944, XAP airplane parts, RENO back 1945-6
All remaining cars
with end doors RENO to 6700-6723 1949
Fe-19 5200-5599 5 RENO to 6550-6554? 1957 but off roster
Photos of Fe-12s in original or renumbered series are probably
rare. There were only 100. None of the usual on-line sites have
one, nor any publication I have examined. If someone out there
has one I would love to have a peak at it!
Thanks entertaining my thoughts on this!