Re: Hog Fuel


I dunno - we called it 100 mile an hour tape in the Army. Supposedly for the speed of the rotor blades on helicopters that it was used to plug bullet holes with in  Vietnam. 

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 11:19 AM Peter Ness <prness@...> wrote:

From the you say to-mah-to, I say to-may-toe Department; or If it walks like a duck and squawks like a duct…


Abridged from Wikipedia…

The idea for what became duct tape came from Vesta Stoudt, an ordnance-factory worker and mother of two Navy sailors, who worried that problems with ammunition box seals would cost soldiers precious time in battle. She wrote to President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1943 with the idea to seal the boxes with a fabric tape, which she had tested at her factory. The letter was forwarded to the War Production Board, who put Johnson & Johnson on the job.[12] The Revolite division of Johnson & Johnson had made medical adhesive tapes from duck cloth from 1927 and a team headed by Revolite's Johnny Denoye and Johnson & Johnson's Bill Gross developed the new adhesive tape, designed to be ripped by hand, not cut with scissors.

Their new unnamed product was made of thin cotton duck coated in waterproof polyethylene (plastic) with a layer of rubber-based gray adhesive bonded to one side. This tape, colored in army-standard matte olive drab, was nicknamed "duck tape" by soldiers.

After the war, the duck tape product was sold in hardware stores for household repairs. The Melvin A. Anderson Company of Cleveland, Ohio, acquired the rights to the tape in 1950. It was commonly used in construction to wrap air ducts. Following this application, the name "duct tape" came into use in the 1950s, along with tape products that were colored silvery gray like tin ductwork. By 1960 a St. Louis, Missouri, HVAC company, Albert Arno, Inc., trademarked the name "Ductape" for their "flame-resistant" duct tape, capable of holding together at 350–400 °F (177–204 °C).

In 1971, Jack Kahl bought the Anderson firm and renamed it Manco. In 1975, Kahl rebranded the duct tape made by his company. Because the previously used generic term "duck tape" had fallen out of use, he was able to trademark the brand "Duck Tape".

According to etymologist Jan Freeman, the story that duct tape was originally called duck tape is "quack etymology" that has spread "due to the reach of the Internet and the appeal of a good story" but "remains a statement of faith, not fact." She notes that duct tape is not made from duck cloth and there is no known primary-source evidence that it was originally referred to as duck tape. Her research does not show any use of the phrase "duck tape" in World War II, and indicates that the earliest documented name for the adhesive product was "duct tape" in 1960. The phrase "duck tape" to refer to an adhesive product does not appear until the 1970s and was not popularized until the 1980s, after the Duck brand became successful and after the New York Times referred to and defined the product under the name "duct tape" in 1973.

No matter, I agree that hog or hogged fuel has nothing to do with feeding pigs…or hogs for that matter.


And now we know that post-war modelers can ship a carload of duct…er…duck…er...TAPE in their consists!

It was probably even used at post war logging mills.





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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hog Fuel


The correct name is duck tape.  It was developed in WWII to keep water primarily off ammunition but of coarse anything else it could be used on.  Using it on ducts is more of a post WWII use.  There is a brand named "Duck Tape".

On 8/7/2018 10:37 PM, Jim wrote:

The hogger is that part of the mill’s jackslip (the approach from the log pond to the saw carriage in the mill interior) which shoots water at great force onto the entering log in order to dislodge rocks, spikes, and other debris caught in the bark that  wpuld be harmful to the sawblades.  The bark thus dislodged is therefore, “hogged” and, in some mills, provides fuel for the boilers.  The more finely chopped bark is also used by landscapers and ranchers to improve  footing in muddy areas. Most speakers drop the “ed” resulting in the half-term, hog fuel, just as some persons hear “duck” tape for duct tape.  Neither hog fuel nor hogged fuel has anything to do with feeding pigs.

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