Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Ed and Ron,
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WP series 9001-9050 had 20 panels, five panels on the slope and
all ribs extending to the sill. These were 1949 Greenville cars.
Does this match up (I don't have one of the ECW kits to compare)?
General arrangement drawings can be viewed at
Photos are found in Jim Eager's book WESTERN PACIFIC COLOR GUIDE
TO FREIGHT AND PASSENGER EQUIPMENT (Morning Sun, 2001). Some of
these cars were fitted up with temporary coil racks only over the
trucks and used between USS plants at Geneva, Utah and Pittsburg
(no "h"), California, over the D&RGW/WP/SN until more
appropriate cars could be purchased for coil service.
E&B Valley offered a WP-lettered car, but it was actually the
PRR design. I stripped mine and lettered it properly for the PRR.
The D&RGW also had similar cars built in 1948 by Pressed
Steel. These were 30050-30999 (2nd series of those numbers, the
orginals having been transferred to the Alaska Railroad in 1947).
See Jim Eager's RIO GRANDE COLOR GUIDE TO FREIGHT AND PASSENGER
EQUIPMENT (Morning Sun, 1996).
On 1/24/19 10:29 PM, mopacfirst wrote:
I am curious if there is any prototype for the 3010 kit. None of
the gons discussed earlier in this topic appear to match.
Does anyone know such a prototype? So far, I haven't found a
That's exactly what I've been chasing. One issue I see is the
jacking pads, which other builders of this model have talked about
removing. Those appear on the NYC 623-G lot, which is a fairly
different car, but I have not seen any on any other pictures of
20-panel 65' gons where the slope spans five panels. The ECW
model also has little molded parts (parts 15 and 16 on the
instruction sheet) which represent the right and left end
'ladders' or grab irons mounted on an angle iron of some sort
similar to the way a ladder would be built. To me, that's one
positive thing that distinguishes this model from the Athearn,
which is much more available and much less work. There are some
prototypes that have separate grabs on the right end of the side,
the SP G-70-2, 9 and 14 among them, so leaving off those parts and
adding wire grabs would be easier than carving some off.
There are quite a number of other cars that have deep fishbelly
sides but four or 2-1/2 panels on the slope, and quite a number of
cars that have a shallower fishbelly and two panels on the slope,
including unfortunately the MP prototypes which are the most
interest to me. I may look for other riveted side gons that could
be sacrificed to allow splicing sides together, but the panel
spacing might be an issue. One never knows, if there is enough
time and patience.
The Seaboard and Illinois Terminal cars shown in the Hendrickson
article reference above have the same panel configuration as the
model along with grab irons rather than the 'ladder', like the SP
cars. The L&N, Rock Island and Frisco cars shown, and some of
the Southern, are also slightly off, having four panels on the
slope. I'm not concerned with top chord reinforcements, since
those are easily added.
I'd do an ITC if I could figure out the decals, or an SP. These
cars could use the dimensional data in the Speedwitch set.