Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
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After I posted, I looked at the Western Pacific Railroad Museum
site, and discovered that WP MW 0220 still exists in their
collection as 20806:
. You can clearly see the Chrysler attachment points. They've made
an attempt to repaint this back to its original
silver-with-orange-feather scheme, but it's been going on for
years. I remember seeing this car when the paint was fresh. They
are, after all, a volunteer group.
That said, they also have re-renumbered 20807, which appears to
have ASF A-3 sideframes without attachment points:
. Well, the WP was never consistent about anything. This car is in
the post-1957 small-feather-scheme used on most 40'
compartmentizer or load restrainer boxcars. They orange-and-silver
paint didn't hold up well, and their flagship cars had become an
embarrassment by the late 1950s.
The WPRM has a really nice collection of some very rare freight
cars, many of which can be seen at
https://www.wplives.org/freightcars.html . Enjoy the pictures.
On 2/24/19 7:49 AM, Garth Groff wrote:
Andy and Friends,
The Western Pacific experimented with Chrysler trucks under
their Compartmentizer-equipped PS-1 boxcars. The first group was
20801-20820, soon renumbered 19501-19520. They were delivered
new with Compartizers in 1951. According to the only equipment
diagram I could find for these cars, they had the ASF A-3 truck
sideframes that the WP favored. However, they definitely came on
Chrysler trucks. I have a Will Whittaker print showing brand-new
20803 in 1951 on Chrysler trucks. I also have 19510 on Chrysler
trucks. The only equipment diagram I could find for these cars
does not mention Chrysler trucks for this group: https://www.wplives.com/diagrams/freight/1968/bc19551.php
In 1952 the WP pulled 22 more cars at random from their regular
PS-1s and had Pullman rebuild them with Compartmentizers. They
returned as 19521-19542, and all but one were on Chrysler trucks
(19537 had Timken roller bearings in what appears to be standard
ASF A-3 frames with the journal box lids removed; it was a test
car and show-boat that was displayed at the state fair with the
famous "Roller Freight" herald). At least one of these survived
in MW service into the 1980s on Chrysler trucks, though without
the snubbers. Since I am just savvy enough to be able to tell an
arch-bar from a roller bearing truck, you tell me if that is an
ASF A-3 frame in the attached photo. If it is an ASF A-3, then
these trucks were available with other than Dalman sideframes.
On 2/23/19 9:46 PM, Andy Carlson
I have thought that the TMW Dalman 2-level would be a
good start, as the side frame has a wide spring area, which
the Chrysler trucks also feature.
I have not gone that far yet in testing this kitbash.
On Saturday, February 23, 2019, 5:36:08 PM PST, Tim
There is no "correct" truck for the Chrysler sideframe.
Just use one
that looks close.
On 2/23/2019 6:26 PM, spsalso via Groups.Io wrote:
> I've received my parts for the Chrysler truck
conversion. The part
> includes the shock absorber and two of the truck
> obvious that the part slides into a newly created
void in the truck.
> My question is: Which truck?
> I'd prefer not to guess. I assume the part was
designed to fit a
> particular model. So I'm asking which one.
> Edward Sutorik