Re: Bridge girder on three PRR FM flat cars


We’ve discussed this load before. Here’s another picture.



Brian Ehni



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Date: Saturday, December 21, 2019 at 5:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bridge girder on three PRR FM flat cars


if you look closely at the pic, the front

centering bracket is partially separated

from the bottom of the girder, indicating

that the load had shifted forward slightly

probably becauae of lack thereof or

insufficient restraints, wonder if cfr49

was in existence back then or would

have been the aar?

mel perry




On Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 3:23 PM Matthew Metoyer <mmetoyer@...> wrote:

These Erie photos tend to be of damages, either to the car or lading. Could the load have shifted and hence the photo?


Matthew Metoyer


On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 3:01 PM mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:

that also my thought, there is no forward

or backwards restrains at all, i guess back then "g's" hadn't been invented, lol


mel perry


On Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 12:32 PM Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:


Think about the dynamics of the three cars going over the approach and crest of the hump.....the load is not secured for extreme vertical curves nor the impact of running into a string of cars after being humped (if the middle car didn’t dislodge the girder as it went over the top!!).

Charlie Vlk 

On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:57 AM, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...> wrote:

Lloyd's question raises another question. When was the first hump yard

built and where?

Chuck Peck


On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 11:45 AM Lloyd Keyser <lloydkeyser@...> wrote:

Why is there not a Do No Hump sign on this load  Lloyd Keyser

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