Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 384661

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)

Hi Garth and List Members,
If you closely examine the image you sent out to us all, one can easily see that the stake pockets near the center of the car have been modified for some specialized use - they look to be securing some kind of steel pivot plate or other loadbearing surface
So I'm not too bothered by the stake pocket count. It would not come as a great surprise to me if the stake pockets were modified for use with one or more specific loads, since this is such a very specialized car moving even more specialized loads
Trucks are also different between the two photos, having gone from arch bar to a more modern design
The overall profile of the car looks to be a dead on match, even down to the unique rectangular openings in the car frame at the body bolster locations.
Claus Schlund

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 384661

Claus and Jim,

Thanks for your help with the P&LE flat car ID. One problem though. The 1941 car has only seven stake pockets, while the car in the earlier photo Jim presented has 12. A rebuild is a likely possibility. Or perhaps this is 6883 and it had a different number of stake pockets from 6884.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:48 PM pdnapp via <> wrote:
Garth, I think this is the P&LE 30' flat in the background. 

There was an article about this car in the American Engineer and Railroad Journal 1905, page 324 (although for online scrolling purposes, it's page 344).

James Dawkins

-----Original Message-----
From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Sent: Mon, Jul 13, 2020 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 384661


Did anyone else notice what appears to be a rather short P&LE flat car on the hill just above the gondola? I was able to pull the attached photo off the web site. Can't read the number.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bob Chaparro via <> wrote:
Photo: PRR Gondola 384661
A 1941 photo from the Historic Pittsburgh website:
Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

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