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There sure do! I have noticed similarities between some of these cars, particularly trucks.
Thanks for sharing!
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:01 PM
[Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: 235, 000 Pound Casting, Very Short Flat Cars
Hi Bob, Bruce and List Members,
The image Bruce attached, of Bethlehem 900, sure looks a whole lot like this PRR car at the link below...
And the trucks in the images Bob posted sure look to be a match as well.
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Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: 235,000 Pound Casting, Very Short Flat Cars
Fascinating. These trucks are identical to those under Bethlehem Steel 900 in the attached photo.
The PRR flat car(s) carrying "Big Bertha" to the Columbian Exposition were PRR class FG, 5116a, 5116b, 5117a, and 5117b. Class FG could be assembled as either a single car with 4 trucks, 2 span
bolsters, and a bridge, or two cars consisting a two trucks and a bridge each.
Clearly, the photo posted by Bob uses the load as the carbody, which was not at all unusual. You can see the pivot points on each car under the load.
Ed - My interpretation of the numbering of the trucks is that the TWO in the photo Bob posted are the trucks for PRR 425483. The bridge has been replaced by the load. There are another two trucks
and car body/bridge that would make up 425484
I suspected that it was a PRR car….funny that it doesn’t have any reporting marks other than the number, at least that I noticed on the photo.
This may be the “car” used to haul the Krupp Gun barrel to the 1893 Columbian Exposition. I don’t think I retained any pictures of that car but the European-style “trucks” look familiar.
The drawbar is that big thing on top with all the writing on it.
A question might be whether the whole assembly (car and load) was ever mixing into a generic train, or was handled individually. The second photo hints at the latter. Maybe.
Too, a person might wonder how the subject car was returned empty. Maybe that gon is carrying the "return drawbar".
The car is listed in my November 1926 ORER as PRR 425483 and 425484 (In the photos, it's 425483 A and B). Capacity is listed as 150,000 pounds. It's called a "Flat, Gun and Cable Steel".
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 11:37 AM, mel perry wrote: