Re: N&W Ladderless Tank Car


Bruce Smith
 

Schuyler,

I repeat... huh? Which tank car does not have a platform (or ladder)?? I have not seen any photos of N&W tank cars in this discussion that could be described as "lacking normal appliances".

The original car of the discussion #516420, has a platform, but no ladder on the right side. No left side views were provided, but since single ladders were typically on the left side, it is reasonable to assume a ladder and platform on that side. Certainly, without a photo of the left side, it is not reasonable to assume that there is no ladder or platform on that side. 

Jim provided 2 additional cars:
#516416, seen in two different views, has a ladder and platform on the left side. BTW, this is an interesting 14,000 gallon car, quite large for the time it was built!

#516005 has a ladder and platform on the left side.

So, what tank car are we talking about here that has no platform (or ladder)?

Regards,
Bruce


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Sure, that’s right.  But the N&W car had no platform.  My point is that in as much as the car seems to be lacking “normal” appliances, since it was in company service, they were not required to have everything necessary to be interchanged.

 

Schuyler

 

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Schuyler,

 

Huh??  There was no restriction on tank cars with a single ladder and platform in interchange. They were common. 

 

Regards,

Bruce

 

 


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Since these tanks seem to be in “company service,” and not in interchange, a lot of the rules about what the cars “had to have” didn’t apply.  That may explain the lack of a ladder and a platform.

 

Schuyler

 

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Here's another view of the same car, same side (handbrake, B-end, to the left): https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=19950

 

There is a dent in the tank above the number two so maybe it was in for wreck repairs. That whole end of the car looks a little off but that could just be the perspective of the photograph. Either way, it's a new repaint with chalk lines still visible. The car is in company service, other larger capacity tanks of similar vintage also have one ladder but alas with only one platform (https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=19954https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=19953). The ladder on this car is on the right side when looking towards the B-end. Maybe the railroad wanted to keep that consistent.

 

Another company service tank, B-end to the right, ladder visible: https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=138888

 

The battleship gon behind the tank also looks to have a dent (in the corner).

 

Jim Matthews

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