Re: Proto 2000 Stock Car

Rich Yoder

Hi Ray,

What’s your source of information for the “Stretching of the 36” Mather stock cars to 40”?

Rich Yoder


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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Proto 2000 Stock Car


Yes and no. Those original 40 foot Mather stock cars were stretched 36-footers, which they had too many of and which nobody wanted to lease. They started stretching them around 1928, but forgot that the center sills were a bit small (6" C channel, IIRC). They tended to sag a little too much, so Mather added two trussrods along the center sill to strengthen it (traditionally, trussrods are used to hold an all-wood BODY together, not a steel frame).


By the early Depression years the stretched cars, and the newly built 40-footers, had a stronger underframe, and the trussrods were eliminated. I have a few photos of WWII-era Mather cars that still have the rods, mostly on long term lease C&NW cars.


Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL




On Monday, September 21, 2020, 06:08:54 AM CDT, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:



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Circa 1939 photos I own show L&N and CNW Mather stock cars with truss rod u/f.

Bill Welch

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