Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD

Thanks for sharing that, Bill!  Very similar to PRR coke cars of that era.


It appears that most (if not all) coke cars of this type did have the original doors removed as here:


…and that it was then a simple matter of installing the “doors” board-by-board, after which you climbed the ladder, filled the car up, took it to the customer, and bashed the boards out (in) to empty.


I would still like to find the correspondence as to why they didn’t use a dedicated coke hopper like attached H22.  It might have been lack of facility to center dump.


Elden Gatwood


From: <> On Behalf Of william darnaby
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars


Here is a screen shot I snagged off a Herron Rail video of an empty Monon coke car headed back to Indy on an NYC freight out of Bellefontaine, OH in 1955.


Bill Darnaby



From: <> On Behalf Of Mont Switzer
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars


The MONON hauled coke from the Indianapolis Gas and Coke utility to destinations all over the midwest.  In our era composite stone gons had boxcar bodies  dropped onto them.  Roofs were removed for top loading.  Door openings were boarded up for loading, boards removed as load was removed.


The composite boxcar bodies had boards removed and were often thought to be stock cars. 


As mentioned before, inadequate quenching of the coke combined with air entering the cars as they were hauled in freight trains resulted in fires.  On the Monon this usually occurred between Indianapolis and Monon on train 90 which ran in the evenings.  


Train crews were good at setting out coke cars that had burst into flames.  Local fire departments extinguished the flames, but typically most of the wood was lost.


Mont Switzer 





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