Re: GN 1948 Box Cars

Steve Haas



Two points about the IMRC 12 panel 10’ IH cars.


  1. None of the GN 12 panel 10’ IH cars had the long horizontal grab iron; see Staffan’s photo, and
  2. The ends included with the kit are incorrect.  The GN 12 panel 10’ IH cars are what Ed Hawkins has defined as an IDE-2 end.  In this design, the underside of the top major rib does not descend like the underside of the rest of the major ribs.


To date, no one has provided a commercial model of such an IDE-2 end, even though when compared to the IDE-1 they are almost as numerous as the IDE-1.


Two or three summers ago Bill Welch provided a tease here of a clinic he was putting together, either for St. Louis or Lyle.  In the photo accompanying his posting he included a picture of several ends he was preparing as part of his clinic.  One of these was an IDE-2!  I inquired as to how he had fabricated it.  Bill gracefully responded, stating he had fabricated these ends by taking a pair of ends from an Accurail refrigerator cars, then slicing and dicing to create the proper 4/3 ends with the flattened underside of the top rib.


I’ve got the fabrication for a set of these underway . . . . . learning how to clean up the original Accurail castings to where they’ll make good masters; I’ve got a ways to go.


Best regards,




Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA








From: <> On Behalf Of Staffan Ehnbom
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 1948 Box Cars


Forgot the photo!




On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:39 PM golden1014 via <> wrote:

Hi Gents,

Looking for help please with GN box cars.  I have this Intermountain model that is a 10-foot IH, post-1948 (diagonal r/b), 12-panel car.  Ends are 3-4 Improved Dreadnaught.  Series on the model is 18xxx.  I have a few pics from a GN book to guide construction.

On the ends of this model there appear to be hols for a long horizontal grab iron.  Does anyone have a photo of the end of one of these cars so I can get the modle right?

Thanks, and God Bless,
John Golden

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