Re: 50' Mather stock cars

Tim O'Connor

CB&Q leased cars also carried MSCX reporting marks.

On 1/4/2021 8:18 PM, Rupert Gamlen wrote:

To provide some clarification to the discussion (looking into the future) -

According to ORER’s, the first group of CB&Q leased Mather cars, 20000-20139 (40’ 3” inside length) was received between February 1960 and August 1960

The second group 50200-50239 (50’ inside length) was received between May 1965 and April 1966.
In both cases, the ORER’s state that repair bills should be sent to North American Car.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ



From: <> On Behalf Of Steve SANDIFER
Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] 50' Mather stock cars


1952 is he date given in the Burlington Bulletin. However, I searched the 1959 ORER that I have and could not find them in NYC, CB&Q, NKP, or North American listings. The few photos I have found were all taken in the 1966-68 date range.



J. Stephen Sandifer


From: <> On Behalf Of Ray Breyer via
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 6:45 PM
To: Steam Freight Car <>;
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] 50' Mather stock cars


I haven't been able to find any evidence of the 50-foot cars being converted in 1952. 1962 is more likely a correct date, but by then Mather didn't exist.


Where did the 1952 date come from? I'm working on a full timeline of Mather from 1880-1956, and I'd love to see that data.


Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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