Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Mostly Gondolas (Circa 1940s)


Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Guys;

 

At least on PRR:  early gon and hopper side replacements involved removing the rivets, then replacement of side panels or boards, followed by re-riveting, painting and lettering.

 

As time went by and labor costs rose, replacements were more unitary, like the combined partial side panel and stake replacements used on the H21E, for example.  Four pieces for each side, IIRC.

 

By the sixties, PRR had moved to entire side replacements, stakes and all.  That included things like Stanray corrugated sides with integral stakes.

 

Just one example…

 

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:19 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Mostly Gondolas (Circa 1940s)

 

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 06:46 AM, Mont Switzer wrote:

.........and the sides most likely were shot and needed replacement anyway. However, the stamped side panels obviously would cost more.

Unless... The stamped side panels also included the stakes, saving the fabrication of separate parts. I haven't had any occasion to research replacement gondola sides, but as far as hopper sides are concerned, very few cars used separate framing as modeled on the Tichy car. Early on Union Metal Products revised their product to include "integral stakes", each edge of the sheet being flanged outward to form half a stake, which were welded together after the sheets were riveted to the side sills.

Dennis Storzek

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