Re: Vallejo paint
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OK, I have to say that a paint that requires as many posts as Vallejo seems to just strengthens my opinion that anything other than Scalecoat, either 1 or 2, is a waste of time and a source of aggravation. “Just sayin,” as Fenton would say.
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert kirkham
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Vallejo paint
I’ll add a couple of minor thoughts:
- Vallejo says it can be mixed by rolling the bottle back and forth between the palms for at least 60 seconds. I find this quick and easy.
- I usually put the paint into a small bottle or dish, add a bit of air brush thinner. Doing it this way, you can see if a bottle has gone bad (rare) before it goes in the airbrush cup.
- I pour into the cup, do a test pattern, and spray at about 15 pounds of pressure (a tip from the internet).
- I have a 3 gallon bucket of water with dish soap standing buy. If I mess up, the model goes into the water immediately. I also use the bucket to clean the airbrush.
- I spray more air brush cleaner through to do a final clean up. If it is stubborn, a bit of alcohol in the cup and sprayed through will clean it up. Isopropyl is not good for the gaskets in the airbrush, etc, but I use it in a pinch. I’ll occasionally disassemble and use isopropyl to clean parts that have dried on paint.
For brush painting, wow, is this stuff forgiving. I dip the paint brush in airbrush thinner to moisten (not soak) it a bit before painting. Makes clean up easier later on. I usually mix a few drops on a bit of plastic or tin foil, and brush it on the model. A small puddle goes a long way. Running out has never been a problem; just mix some more and brush it on. The overlap? Well, it's invisible to my eye. So easy makes me wonder why I bother with the airbrush. But the airbrush gives a thinner coat.
Down side: it turns to stretchy rubber if you apply a wash thinned with turpentine. That was a bad day!
On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
Clark never mix in the paint cup as paint goes around needle and that does not mix well with paint and thinner added above. Always mix in another container - I use a large measuring spoon. There are two Vallejo paint types: Model Air ready for spraying which I find rare ( I have spayed only a few times with paint directly from the bottle) and Model Color for brushing that always must be thinned. Before any thinning I remove eye dropper bottle top which does come out of bottle and stir paint inside bottle and reinsert eyedropper top. thinning: I mix all paint for the airbrush in a large measuring spoon. Normally 30 to 40 drops of paint. The beauty of the eye drop top. Thinner: Model Air due to bottle sitting on shelf for a period of time may need to be thinned when opened so start with maybe 10 drops of thinner and work up 5 drops at a time. You should have a milk viscosity for spraying. I use a piece of rail to stir the paint and thinner in the measuring spoon. If I turn the rail after stirring vertical and the paint on the rail forms a drop and drips off paint is ready. For Model Color I start with the same number of 30 to 40 drops of paint. I start with half the number of drops, 15 or 20 of thinner and work up - again five drops at a time. Again, when drop falls off rail used for mixing thinned paint ready for spraying. On Model Color at times I will need and work up to the same amount of drops, 30 to 40 to get viscosity of thinner and paint correct. Sounds like a lot of tedious time spent mixing; however, soon second nature and you will be able to mix at light speed as you building speed.