Re: Photo: Freight Cars On Barges


One of the main reasons the railroads hauled carfloats like this in New York harbor was so that they could minimize shifting at the float bridges. The tug stays in the middle while the barges split the rack by removing the line connecting the two barges at their bows. A good crew could essentially land two barges at once, a big factor considering the volume of freight moving by carfloats across New York harbor at one point, not to mention the high costs of the railroad marine operations.

Jim Matthews

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On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM, SamClarke via <samc@...> wrote:

Not being a barge expert, since I was born and raised in Nevada, I can see the reason of the “V” as the tug is actually pushing against sides of the barges sort of wedged in. The lashing is meant to keep the barges from spliting from the force of the tug and not the towing force. I imagine that the tug has more control pushing the “V” rather than pushing (pulling) on the lashing if the barges were lashed more symmetrically.


As I mentioned earlier the trucks look like 1954/55 Internations thus dating the photo to about that time.





Sam Clarke

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From: [] On Behalf Of kevinhlafferty
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars On Barges


As noted previously by both Dennis and Bruce there are indeed aft lines securing the tug to the barges; the port aft line is visible in this view taken moments before. Also visible in this view is a considerable amount of slack in the fore barge to barge line which would indicate that the lashing isn’t quite as secure as it might be. I would guess the aft lines are working overtime at this moment. Not having experience in large nautical equipment I have to ask is there some advantage to a V configuration of the barges vs. a more symmetric lash up?


Kevin Lafferty


From: [] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars On Barges


Having watched barges and tows on the Mississippi River, I know there are winches on the barge, used to tighten all lines. There are also large binders used by the crew to tighten lines that are not directly tied to the tow. This keeps the barges and tow (what the tugs are called on the river) as a rigid single unit. Note the two barges are tied together at the nose, with no visible slack.



Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars On Barges


Interesting. The tug is churning along under power towards the bottom of the picture. Yet the cables off the tug's bow up to the barges have no slack. How does that work?

On 26/04/2021 9:58 a.m., Bob Chaparro via wrote:

Photo: Freight Cars On Barges

A photo from the University of Wisconsin – Milwaukee Libraries:

Click on the arrows and scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

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