Re: Gon interior pt 4


The peak of shipping horses in stock cars was the WWI timeframe as horses were war machines as well as power for fire bragades, milk delivery, police, and general commerce. As cars and trucks developed, horses were used more for meat than horsepower. WPA development of intracity roads caused a further decline in the 30s.

Steve Sandifer

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 1:40 PM, Charlie Vlk
<cvlk@...> wrote:


I imagine that Bruce Smith, our resident equine specialist, can give a more detailed account, but horses and mules were used in WWII more than most people realize and many were killed on both sides through use and in battle.

Charlie Vlk


From: <> On Behalf Of Alexander Schneider Jr
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Gon interior pt 4


They also offer hog and mule sound effects. Was the Army still using mules during WW II?





On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 12:37 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD

OK, OK, the mooing stock car is over the top, but some “animatronics” can liven up an operating session, especially when you introduce something with no warning.


My bad order cars/shifted loads/etc., used to drive people nuts….


Elden Gatwood



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I did a load of hot (burning) coke in a gon, for a guy that worked with me a while ago, that wanted some operational fun.


The load was real coke glued on top of a base with a AAA battery and flickering red light.  Removable for turning on and off and replacing battery.   It did not show too good in day, but at night, yes.


I have lost track of the photo I had of that car.  Too bad.


I also have a model of a PRR GR gon with portions of the flooring missing, that was a hit at some train shows.  You can see the trainline through the holes.  Modeled after the real thing.


There was a composite gon of unknown origin that roasted on the PRR Mon Line and was shoved into a siding, and sat for years.  What were they going to do with it?  It eventually had a Sumac tree growing up through it.  Finally, one day, it disappeared.


Elden Gatwood


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Somehow, this fired the imagination a bit: how would you model a gon rolling along in a train while on fire .  .  .   


(Coming back to reality,) good thoughts!  No, I am not doing anything more than showing bad paint and rust, but will need to give that a re-think.  


I suspect it is a much more noticeable element in some regions and some portions of some railroads than other places on the same railroad, or other railroads or regions.  But that’s just conjecture.






On Mar 24, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:




Thought you’d enjoy the attached and see if anyone had the guts to model it.


I talked to a few of my friends, and we think it is a bad repair of a burned-out wooden floor.  The MRY is south of the PRR/Mon, which hosted many mills producing hot steel products like ingots and hot coil.  Correspondence has many examples of burnt-out cars.


These bad boys look great in a train, and then as a set-out or action (fire-fighting) in an ops session.


I have a number of bed order cars.  They usually cause much consternation.


What are your thoughts on this cool car?


Elden Gatwood

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