Re: IC 161722 Chcago, 1940's


These cars had the Square 5/5 Dreadnaught Ends. Brad Hamner did a presentation on kitbashing this car on Hindsight 20/20 Zoom RPM a few years back. The doors were also slightly different.

Rich Christie

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:20:40 AM CDT, Jeffrey White <jrwhite@...> wrote:

According to the car diagram in the IC 1954 freight car diagram book the cars were built by GATC in East Chicago IN in 1937 so the photo could be a delivery photo.  161501 - 161700 had auto loaders and 161701 - 162300 no auto loaders.  At some point (the diagram sheet doesn't give a date) they were renumbered to 44000 - 44199 (auto loaders) and 41000 - 41599 (no auto loaders).

Other data that modelers may find useful:

Trucks: ASF (AAR)

Roof: Rigid riveted type "Hutchins"

Doors: Youngstown Corr Steel

Handbrake: Universal XL 1825

Ladders: Brascott

Some cars in 4100 - 41599 equipped with 50T trucks.

Jeff White Alma IL

On 7/14/2022 9:07 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Definitely a 1937 photo as Bob says. Here's one of the cars IC 161748 in 1941, and it's quite weathered.

On 7/14/2022 2:37 AM, nyc3001 . wrote:
This looks like the series right after the 161501 series (161700?), which were modeled by the Sunshine kit. They look similar, so I wonder what the differences are.

I wonder if these cars have just been delivered as the other car whose number is visible is 161875, which would be in the same series (?).

-Phil Lee

Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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