Re: Need help / GM&O 17000 series boxcars

Ray Breyer

Actually, I think that these cars were rebuilt in two groups: one with flat roofs and Murphy ends, and a second with radials and Dreadnaughts. That makes sense, as a road as cash strapped as the Alton wouldn't spring for enough material to rebuild 1000 cars all at once.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 07:25:50 PM CDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Ray Breyer  feels that these were 1905 wooden cars rebuilt with radial roofs and some version of dreadnaught ends. We are still looking
Thanks for your input

On Sep 17, 2022, at 8:22 PM, Srrfan1401 <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Thanks Todd, I’m looking for that photo

On Sep 17, 2022, at 8:22 PM, Todd Sullivan via <sullivant41@...> wrote:


A little more data.  I checked my January 1952 ORER, and the GM7O had 6 ex-Alton 17000 series boxcars listed.  They were not big cars: 12'-1" at the eaves, 12'-11" over the running board  and 2730 cuft..  By comparison, the 1937 AAR standard boxcar was about 14'-8" over the running board and 3712cuft.

Todd Sullivan

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