Fowler Boxcar

Alan C. Welch <acwelch@...>

Date: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CPR Fowler Cars

Probably the first CPR Fowler car received a Youngstown door in 1929. It
already had a Murphy roof. Photo at CPR Angus Shop.

Al Welch

If it already had a Murphy roof how can you be certain it was a Fowler
car??? IIRC almost all Fowler cars constructed for the CNR
I believe the first FOWLER cars constructed for the CN were built in 1920.

and CPR were
originally constructed with wood roofs and all Dominion cars, which is what
they really were, that made use of the Fowler patent were constructed by
the end of 1914.
The car is a FOWLER because the slotted bolt holes are plainly visible.

Not long thereafter most of the cars were built new with
Murphy or other metal roofs. Not being at home at the moment I do not have
my files available to check more closely on dates.
The roof is of the type that was applied over the original, wood roof, as was the case for so many CP FOWLER cars.

It is highly possible that the first CPR Dominion car received a
Youngstown door in 1929. However, the first CPR blueprint found to date
showing such a change seems to be the one for the upgrade program begun
in early 1935 that called for Youngstown doors.
Don Valentine
Al Welch

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