----- Original Message -----
From: "buchwaldfam" <duff@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: ex-PRR cars on Rutland or GMRR? also cars on the OERM

Elden,

The two cars sitting in Middlebury have rectangular panel
roofs. The trucks are solid bearing types, however they are not the
original Andrews trucks... understandable since they ran in the
70's.
One car has been painted white with red roof and ends. The
other is in brown primer on one side and both ends, while the other
side is still in GMRR green with the words, "Terry's Pullman" neatly
stenciled next to the door. Both cars are "stock", with no MOW
modifications, etc.
I looked all over for enough paint to get a car number, but
had no luck. I even went back there in early evening and tried to
see if I could catch a shadow of the original numbers under the top
coat of paint, but they must have done a thorough job when they
repainted them.
Is there some sort of equivalent to an automobile "VIN" tag
that the PRR would have attached to the cars? Serial number
stampings in the sheet metal somewhere? Could a serial number on the
old USRA underframe be tied to a PRR number? I did see numerals
stamped on various pieces here and there, but they didn't mean
anything to me.
I haven't seen the car that is down in Rutland, but would
like to get down there if I get a weekend off.
The photo shows a diagonal panel roof, definitely in GMRR
paint, but like I wrote before, you can't make out a car number.

Best Regards,
Phil Buchwald

--- In STMFC@..., "Gatwood, Elden" <Elden.Gatwood@h...>
wrote:

Phil;
I had heard the Vermont had some of these cars, and even saw a pic

once.

Me and the other guys involved in TKM would love to see some

photos of

these cars, so we get the details right. While we know some of

what

roof went with what cars, specifics about any of them are

especially

useful in doing these cars up right for the magazine.

If you or any other intrepid STMFC members have a chance to get

some

images, we could particularly use:

Roof shot (and hoping, treatment type) and running board type

B end details, including handbrake and brake step

Underframe shots

And, of course, car numbers!

Elden Gatwood

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