Hi Greg,

Thanks for the information. I'm planning on using Tichy 3045
stirrups on my model. I think they might be a little long, but they
have the right look.

Maybe you could help me out on one more LNE matter. Before the
Tamaqua Extension was finished in 1912, Lehigh Coal & Navigation
bought 50 twin-bay, ribside hoppers lettered for Panther Creek. Did
these cars make into the LNE roster, and do you know the number
series and how long they were on the roster?

Thanks,
Mark Heiden

--- In STMFC@..., "gsb157" <sgaab@p...> wrote:

Not often I see a post on my favorite RR. For reference, I have

the

Train Shed Cyclopedia No.5 that contains the data from the 1940

Car

Builders Cyclopedia.

The photo in the book is fairly clear with details. The car

listed,

13283, was part of the 100 car order built by Bethlehem Steel Co.

in

1939 covering numbers 13251-13350. The numbers 13001-13250 were

from

a 1936 order from the same company. The dimensions should be
identical though the capacity for the 1936 order is listed as 2100
cu. ft. while the 1939 100 car order lists capacity at 2062 as is
reported in the cyclopedia.

Concerning the stirrups, the photo shows that both sides of the

car

as-built look to have identical stirrups. Their shape is straight

and

rectangular, no sign of any angle and canted slightly outward as

you

describe. It is totally different from the type of stirrup on the
Atlas 2 bay offset hopper.

I have no information, photographic or otherwise, that would

verify

if and when any rebuilds changed these in the 40's. If I had to

give

an educated guess, being that the LNE was fairly frugal concerning
their rolling stock, I could not see them changing the style of

the

stirrup early on except maybe in the case of collision damage. I'd
change the Atlas model to reflect an as-delivered style.

Hope this helps.
Regards,
Greg Bartek


--- In STMFC@..., "Mark Heiden" <mark_heiden@h...>

wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to determine the proper stirrup steps for a Lehigh &

New

England twin bay, offset-side hopper. The car in question is

from

series 13001-13350, delivered in 1939. There is a grainy

builder's

photo from the 1940 Cyclopedia available on the pay side of the
NEB&W website at:

http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Hoppers/LNE-offset-

hm-

centered-logo-40-cyc.jpg

The vertical "legs" of stirrups appear to be straight and canted
slightly outwards, with two horizontal steps. However, later

photos

of these cars from the 1960s show one "leg" offset towards the
center of the car, with two horizontal steps, like those that

come

with the Atlas hopper. Were these cars delivered with one style

of

steps, and then acquired another through rebuilds and repairs?

What

would be correct for a car in the late 1940s?

Thanks,
Mark Heiden