----- Original Message -----
From: Gatwood, Elden
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Wabash hoppers


Fred;
It looks like a hopper with two-piece sides, like the N&W H-2A hoppers
that were done up that way. The car appears to have been shoveled
partially out, perhaps to clear it for the re-railing/other operations
to come. You can see the centersill through the remaining load on the
floor.

Nevertheless, your comment about the door is still valid. I do not know
of any eastern gons that had these in the latter half of the 20th
century. All the ones I know of had doors in the floor, and most of
these were eliminated before WWII, probably as the reasons for their use
(customers with limited unloading means) went by the wayside.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Fred in Vt.
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:28 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Wabash hoppers

Tim,

Might I try another question from this photo.
The car in the center, which I take to be a gondola
has some odd looking oblong cutouts / patches on the lower right side.
Are these in fact patch works, or some type of side door outline?
Have seen many types of gonds with small side doors on eastern
lines, and would like to model a few. This one in the photo intrigues
me.
Anyone care to venture an answer?

Fred Freitas
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:23 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Wabash hoppers



A wreck photo from Decatur IL in 1950, showing a panel-side
Wabash hopper. But look: it appears that the interior of the
car is made smooth by wood sheathing! Any seen this before or
have an explanation?

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/wab/wab-decyd-ajg.jpg

Tim O'Connor




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