Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
Hi Pat,
The wand is a piece of tool steel rod that has been magnetized and is about four inches long. To reach any distance you would have to mount it on a piece of dowel or other circular material, keeping size and diameter reasonable, but remaining rigid enough not to sag while you reach across.
I like the way they operate and how they look, but unfortunately the inability to reach across more than a foot of benchwork makes them impracticable if you plan to do anything other than run around without doing anything. Now if you are into displays and/or contests at train shows and conventions, RPM meets, etc., then there is nothing that can beat them.
If someone can find a way to uncouple them remotely or in any other fashion, then they will become workable in operating sessions.
Tom Olsen Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
Patrick Wider wrote:
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Tom,
If I understand you correctly, after application of the magnetic wand held above the coupler or a surplus super-conducting collider magnet held even higher, one still has to get access to the Sergent coupler's knuckle with a Howard Hughes' finger nail, dentil pick, or bent paper clip to open it? Is this how they work? Man Oh Man. What a handy workable design! At least it would eliminate the need for a "scale clock". Thanks for the engineering analysis!!!!!
Pat Wider
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas M. Olsen" <tmolsen@U...> wrote:
List,
In mid-June, I purchased a set of assembled Sargent Couplers (#EC87A-125) along with the Magnetic Uncoupling Wand. The price for the two items with shipping was $18.00. You get five assembled Type "E" couplers. They work very well and are smaller in size than the Kadee #58s. Even though I have not had the opportunity to mount them in a piece of rolling stock, I was able to test how they work. These couplers are all-metal and are a dark reddish-brown in color which at a distance make the coupler look as if it were covered with rust.
In reality, they operate just like the prototype. They have a spring located in the shank ahead of the mounting hole like the MKD-4 Kadee to absorb the shock when the coupling is made. After uncoupling, they, like the prototype do not return to center as the Kadee and other HO couplers available do. They do not mate with other knuckle couplers due to the size difference between a proto-87 coupler and the present couplers available with the exception of the cast dummy couplers. The manufacturer advises that with a little filling on the dummy coupler knuckle, they will couple. To couple, they, like their prototype cousins require the services of a brakeman to align the coupler and if necessary to open one of the knuckles if both are closed. They will couple if only one is open and both are properly aligned. The present information sheet from Sergent advises that the current offerings are to retrofit existing equipment. It is possible that they may offer draft gear boxes in the future as they said "Stay Tuned!'
This coupler position and open/closed knuckle situation could be a problem for anyone who has a fairly large hump, staging or flat switched yard or any other location where the benchwork edge is more than an arms length or the track centers are close at a distance with rolling stock close on adjacent tracks. The distance benchwork edge to track situation is going to be the determining factor as to whether anyone will want to use these for operations, or just buy them for display purposes in shows and contests. You have to be able to place the magnetic wand over top of the coupler head to raise the steel ball out of it's slot in the locking block in the coupler shank. This allows the knuckle to open. When the knuckle closes, the steel ball drops back into it's place and locks the knuckle closed. The prototype couplers are designed the same way, except there is no steel ball to raise, just the locking block which is actuated by the raising (or lowering, depending on whether they are over or under-slung) of the cutting lever on the car end. In an earlier discussion regarding the operation of couplers, it was Larry Jackman who addressed the operation as to how couplers lock and what has to occur to allow them to open. Many thanks Larry, for making this clear to many who have not had the on the ground experience in this area.
The ability to open them when they are mounted on passenger equipment with diaphragms is a valid point. As Tim O'Connor mentioned, the possible use of anisotropic magnets mounted on a wand designed for this use and also mounted on an extended wand for distances would solve the problems in both the passenger and freight situations. In regard to the comment that the couplers have to be filed down to fit present draft gear boxes: there was no mention of this in the paperwork that accompanied the set that I received.
I'm sure that we all will be interested in what Jared Harper's results as he begins to test these couplers in actual service. The big bugaboo will be the ability to reach the cars and accurately get the wand into position to uncouple the cars, or to be able to align couplers with the cars buried in a yard more than two feet from the benchwork end. This will really be a test of skill when humping cars, as you will only have seconds to lift ball to uncouple the cars as they go over the hump or to uncouple rear-end helpers on the fly. Most fellows that I know will not use these couplers as they require the operator to get more involved in the actual work of making and breaking up of trains and in switching operations. The magnetic couplers in use today allow us to move along quickly in an operating session, while use of the Sergent couplers will bring us back to reality as nothing moves fast in actual railroad switching and in train make-up and break-up operations. Just like the Army - "Hurry Up and Wait!
But, for display and contest purposes, they cannot be beat! Hopefully, Sergent will offer a scale draft gear box to make this superbly scaled coupler. Do not get me wrong, the Quad 58/78 is a tremendous improvement over the earlier #5 and I will use them until the Sargent is proved to be good in operation and the problems are solved. Whether they are depends on what others find when they use them. Jared, please keep us up on what you find as it will be greatly appreciated!
Tom Olsen 7 Boundary Road, West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 (302) 738-4292 tmolsen@u...
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