William Keene <wakeene@...>
I concur with your thoughts that any new couple should be have coupling
capability with what is considered the norm or standard in operation.
But, I am not so sure that the market works this way. History has a
different story to tell.
When the 5s first were introduced, a then much younger me, managed to
talk my father into a trip 50 or so miles down the highway to Tulsa for
the single reason of purchasing a few pairs for a try. At that time, my
layout was populated with various versions of the X2F coupler. And the
thought of converting the entire fleet of freight cars was
The 5s soon became my standard coupler and over time, and it was not
that long, most, but not all, of the fleet was converted. There were
those cars that were believed to be just too toy-like or just not that
good of models to warrant the time, money, and effort of conversion.
Some of these are still in a box out in the garage.
So when the thought of converting to something as great looking, and as
prototypically operational, as the Sergent coupler came up, it was a no
brainer. Convert I will. Granted, I now have a layout on which a total
of two dozen cars will fill every need for operation. And even then
only about half of these would actually be on the layout at one time,
so conversion is not the issue it would be if there were several
hundred cars lined up at the RIP track.
Most of us did convert relatively quickly to the 5s when they became
available. And there was no compatibility with the X2F at all. What
there was was a better coupler. That was enough. Yes, I can think of
"improvements" to the Sergent, and I am still wondering about use on
passenger cars with diaphrams, but as none of the passenger
accommodations on my layout had diaphrams this is most likely a
non-issue. The lack of my personal "improvements" is not enough to stop
While the Sergent is not perfect, it does look real good. And from what
I have been reading in this thread, it appears to operate well. What it
does not have is the big pin thingy. That is the big selling point to
me along with the prototypical operation. I am looking forward to
having some in-hand and into operation soon.
Back to the original theme... we will convert when we see there is
value in the use of the product. We did this many years ago and we will
do it again.
Just my two cents worth. Thanks for reading.
--- Bill Keene
On Oct 11, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Jim Betz wrote:
There are several aspects of couplers and most of these have
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