-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Montford Switzer
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:15 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: HO retainer valves

Group and Denny,

Well, I hate to admit to faking it, but I do. I install either an .008
or .010 trainer line first securing the top in a small hole (usually
#78) drilled at about where the valve should be. I then cement the
valve so that the line appears to run into the bottom as intended.

I believe the PSC valves are made with a lug that you can push into a
small hole to make the attachment stronger. Testors for plastic to
plastic, ACC for other applications.

STEAM ERA FREIGHT CARS used retainer valves.

Mont Switzer

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Denny Anspach
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:11 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: HO retainer valves

I often finesse the modeling of retainer valves because of my common
personal inability to actually < < < see > and/or < orient > this
tiny detail part, or actually grasp the part with any tool so that
it does not sail off into the thick carpet pile sunset. If I have
survived so far, then I face actually mounting the valve reliably in
a correct position with correct orientation, and at last butting the
air line to the valve in some way that it too doesn't disappear into
the sunset the first time the car is handled.

Now, how do you other listers handle this problem? What valves are
the easiest to use and handle? Is there an indexing pin on the back,
and a hole for anchoring the .010" air line? Can they be purchased
in bulk, i.e. without purchasing an entire brake set, i.e. Tichy?

Mont Switzer has mentioned the PSC valves. The only problem there is
the $20.00 minimum (a LOT of valves).

Denny


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Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento




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