Re: hoppers in interchange,
Doug Brown <g.brown1@...>
PRR class GLCA is most definitely a two bay hopper, not a gon. Several earlytoggle quoted messageShow quoted text
classes of PRR hopper cars were class G..., including class GD the USRA twin
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] hoppers in interchange,
Joseph Walder wrote:
What are your thoughts on what the anthracite railroads did to foreignJoe,
Between November 5th and December 10th, 1952, New Hampshire's Suncook
Valley RR received four loads of Anthracite from a mine or breaker in
Coxton PA which was in the Lehigh Valley: - D&H 3835; L&NE 14087; LV
17350 and PRR Glca Class Gon #209917. From November 1st to December 20th
when the SunVal was embargoed prior to abandonment, there were seven
inbound loads of anthracite (including the above), and three loads of
bituminous. All three of the bituminous loads were loaded into home road
hoppers. Only three of the six hoppers loaded with Anthracite were
loaded into home road hoppers - the seventh was the PRR Gon.
This may be an indication that roads loading anthracite were more apt to
poach foreign hoppers rather than classify the home from the foreign
ones which could then be returned to their owners as empties. Please
note, however, that hoppers of bituminous roads were not loaded with
anthracite for this small sample.
Most of the railroads in the anthracite region of Pennsylvania wouldIn these mine-to-breaker-mine movement cycles, did they include only
hoppers of the anthracite roads, or include some from the bituminous
roads, too? For this purpose, please consider the PRR and ERIE as
I know that the NYO&W Railway was doing this in the late 1940s-1950s.Carrying Anthracite, Bituminous, or Both? Also, to the best of my
knowledge, the Port of New York was equipped to load barges with coal,
but not ships while I don't believe any southern New England port was
equipped to load ships with coal.
Now yes, there was some leasing agreements involved, and yes, the O&WThat seems to be more of a testament to the condition of the O&W hopper
fleet more than anything else.
Ben Hom may be better able to comment on this than I after his study of
hopper movements on the Rutland.
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