Re: Intermountain USRA gondolas

Ray Breyer <rbreyer@...>


Check the 1950 ORER for the IC's USRA composite gons:
98000-98986, 92 cars, 4'10" IH
1000-2199, 6000-6099, 1024 cars, 4'10" IH, log service

That's where the gons were going: they were being phased out of gon service
and being added to the pulpwood fleet.

If it will help, I've got a builder's photo of IC 126806, a USRA composite

And I've TWO of those GM&O 12333 USRA clone gon photos. The wreck sequence
included an end shot. Let me know if you want a copy. Those GM&O gons were
Alton clones; all 100 of the Alton's original USRA gons were off the roster
by 1940. I've also got a shot if an ITC B motor hauling another GM&O USRA
clone, 55673; looks like the GM&O just stuck these cars all over the
numbering scheme.

And BTW: there's no 1940 GM&O listing because the GM&O was formed in 1940,
and your ORER is before then. Check the GM&N and M&O, and later the Alton

Ray Breyer

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Intermountain USRA gondolas


The only problem is that 107000-108499 have 3'5" interior height --
i.e. they are "low sided" gondolas. I don't have any ORER's between
1940 and 1950, but the 1950 shows the 94000- series cars with the
same 3'5" interior height -- not like other USRA gons.

But you could be right that the 213000- series gons are later design.
I don't have any IC records or photos of any of these cars. I have a
1944 photo of GM&O 12333 but I can't look up the dimensions -- my
Westerfield 1940 ORER CD-ROM has no GM&O (???). What's that about?


From a 1946 Illinois Central equipment book, the only gons listed old
enough to be USRA built (28 years), were the 94000-95492 series which
numbered 1471 cars. The next oldest group of composite gons were 23
years old. The cars show being numbered in the 107000-108499 series
in the Apr 1940 ORER. By 1950, only 54 cars remained. In 1953, the
IC began building/purchasing new steel GS type gons which were placed
in the 94000-95499 number series.

Chet French
Dixon, IL

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