Folks, I want to thank everyone who responded to my questions about the cars. I appreicate the info and info on sources of more detailed info if I want to find it. I'm also sorry that my post sparked of a debate about sharing info and pointing people in the direction to buy items that may be of help. I thought that was part of the reason for this list group in the first place. But hopfully one day in the future I may be able to repay the group by answering someone elses question. Merry Christmas Fred Mullins modeling the Atlantic & Danville Railway!