Re: northeast US hopper movements

nfriespf <nfriespf@...>

The NKP did recieve a ton for coal from the C&O at Fostoria in the
40's the yard there was expanded to handle the increasing
interchange traffic. Before the NKP leased the WLE its hoppers were
used to serve northern Ohio quarries. It operated a dedicated run
out of Bellevue (powered by an H-5 mike of NYC design into the
spring of 58) to a quarry near were the NKP and the PRR Toledo
branch crossed. This was at one point the NKP's single largest
shipper of stone and dolaminte.
N Fries
--- In, Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>

Posted by: "ed_mines"
There are a couple of books of NKP publicity photos with many of
the photos taken in the steam era. In the text of onoe of these
books it says that most coal on the NKP came from the C&O (at one
time the 2 roads were affiliated by a common owner; they even shared
Be careful about believing things just because they are written
in books. Errors can be found in even the best researched and
written books. In the news media, usually more than 20 percent of
what's written about railroads is erroneous.

Just looking at the map of the NKP shows that had to be wrong.
It's perpendicular to C&O lines, hardly a logical connection. The
W&LE, an NKP subsidiary, served coal mining areas. The fact that
they had a common owner has nothing to do with how the coal was
routed. The C&O shippers had the right to route over any other
railroad they wanted to use beyond Cincinnati, Columbus and Toledo.

NKP had a moderate sized fleet of their own hoppers. Is it
possible that their own fleet was used to ship coal for company use?

Not likely. The railroads serving the mines controlled what
cars were used. They would have accepted NKP cars for loading only
when they had a shortage. And the serving railroads could not have
required those cars to be used for coal to the NKp.

Malcolm Laughlin, Editor 617-489-4383
New England Rail Shipper Directories
19 Holden Road, Belmont, MA 02478

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