The Southern car is riveted. On the model there are no
rivets that attach the bays to the sides however. Also
missing on the model are the poling pockets.
Tim you are right the model is slightly longer than
the drawing. Oh well, gonna build it anyway, its close
--- Tim O'Connor <email@example.com> wrote:
Jim Eager wrote to MFCL 7-June-2005 about this
... basically a remake of the MDC 9-panel, which
great and definitely long in the tooth, but it
looks to be
welded. If so, then C&EI/MP (longer), D&RGW
TNM, and TP/MP are it. If riveted then B&O, C&O,
CG, CRR, FEC, GTW, M&StL, RDG, StLBE, and WM,
of those had arched or peaked ends.
Tom Haag then wrote:
I then compared it to drawings of a Southern AAR
that were in the 12/90 issue of MM. The Atlas car
a foot and a half longer that the car in the
Next I reread J. Eager's article on AAR 3-bay,
hoppers in the 6/95 issue of RMJ. The article
the Southern cars were a foot longer than the
recommended design. Uh oh.
Finally the article said that the M&StL cars were
longer than the typical car. Hmmmm.
So it appears that Atlas used a non-typical
model the AAR standard 9-panel hopper car.
So fans of the M&StL (and perhaps D&RGW and C&EI)
happy but modelers of RDG, CR, WM, CRR, C&O, C&I,
NH and others won't be.
No one has said -- is the model riveted or welded?
Southern cars riveted, or welded?
James D Thompson wrote:welded/riveted car that AC&F built for
The Atlas car is basically a hybrid
were: a late-1950s NYC
C&O in the early and mid-1950s. The Stewart cars
standard; the PRR-C&O-N&W
ribside triple adopted as an alternate AAR
also recently done by Accurail.
consortium car; and the AAR offset-side triple
you sure about what you
I respect your knowledge of hopper cars, but are
stated? I just checked Al Kresse's book on C&Ohopper and gondolas and
cannot find any 70-ton C&O hoppers with the longerinside length as
modeled by the Atlas Trainman series hopper. As Istated in my earlier
post the Atlas triple hopper appears closest indimensions to the one
ACF advertised in the 1953 Car Builders'Cyclopedia. The Atlas model
represents a triple hopper that is sightly longer(IL 42'-8") than the
ones built by ACF (IL 40'-6") or Bethlehem andothers (IL 40'-8"). All
have of height of 10'-8" from the top of the railto the top of the
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